Post by Aleks1978 » Jan 21, 2012, 8:53 pm
Re: Two candles for IZ planet
Post by oleksa » Jan 21, 2012, 9:33 pm
You can make it even cooler. Put 2 candles like this
What's the point!? What will it give !?
Re: Two candles for IZ planet
Post by Nikol » 21 Jan 2012, 21:51
Re: Two candles for IZ planet
Post by Andrey 96 » Jan 21, 2012, 10:18 pm
Re: Two candles for IZ planet
Post by Aleks1978 » Jan 21, 2012, 10:47 pm
Re: Two candles for IZ planet
Post by Andrey 96 » Jan 21, 2012, 11:08 pm
Re: Two candles for IZ planet
Post by oleksa » Jan 21, 2012, 11:12 pm
Re: Two candles for IZ planet
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Spark plug characteristics
A motorcycle spark plug has a thermal characteristic, which is designated by a heat rating.
The higher this number, the colder the candle. There are two types of candle temperature:
- A hot spark plug heats up more during engine operation, since it has less heat dissipation from the central electrode and insulator. Engine oil hits the spark plug, heats up and burns quickly, but spark formation is not disrupted. Such spark plugs are suitable for low-boost engines (installed on choppers). When the heat is too strong, the oil may ignite from the spark plug rather than from a spark. Then glow ignition occurs, work stops, engine power is lost, and it may break down.
- A cold spark plug heats up less and prevents glow ignition from occurring, since it has greater heat removal from the central electrode and insulator. But since its temperature is not very high, the engine oil is not burned, which can prevent the formation of a spark. Such spark plugs are suitable for highly boosted engines in which the compression level is high (installed on sports motorcycles).
If a motorcycle spark plug often burns out, it is almost always due to the operation of vacuum carburetors.
For a low-powered engine, I recommend using hot spark plugs in cold weather, with a heat rating of 8, 11. If the engine power is 26 kilowatts and there are no good cooling conditions, and the weather is hot, then cold spark plugs with a heat rating of 14, 17 are more suitable. In winter it is better Just use candles with a protruding heat cone.
Technical features of the motorcycle
Basic data: the distance between the wheel axles is 1,450 mm; With an absolute load and tire pressure within normal limits, the ground clearance is 135 mm. The dimensions are as follows: length - 2200 mm, width - 810 mm, height - 1200 mm, weight (dry) - 158-165 kg, maximum load capacity - 170 kg, including a load on the trunk of 20 kg. The power of the motorcycle is 22 horsepower. At an optimal speed of 90 km/h, fuel consumption is 5 liters per hundred kilometers.
Adjusting the electronic ignition system on Izh Planet 5. How to set the ignition on the Planet?
If you are the owner of an IL, the ignition of Planet 5 electronic type can be adjusted in the following way:
If you are the owner of an IZH Jupiter 5 motorcycle, then you will be interested in an article on setting up electronic ignition on an IZH Jupiter 5
As a rule, this option for setting up the ignition on Izh Planet 5 works without problems. Moreover, as a reserve for installing the ignition on Izh Planet 5, you can use a contact system for starting the power unit.
So, we figured out how to set the ignition on the Planet. With proper adjustment of the engine starting system, your motorcycle will start normally, and you will be able to experience all the delights of driving such a two-wheeled vehicle.
Ignition Izh Planet 5: features of setup and adjustment
Many motorcyclists, despite the enormous selection of modern motorcycle equipment offered by foreign companies, prefer Russian-made brands. One of the popular models of two-wheeled vehicles among domestic buyers to this day remains the IZH motorcycle, which was produced at the automobile plant in Izhevsk from 1987 until 2008.
The Izh Planet 5 motorcycle, the production of which took place during the years of perestroika, was intended primarily for use on hard road surfaces. The model was equipped with an electronic engine starting system. Therefore, for a long time, the motorcycle was in greatest demand among representatives of the middle income level. At the same time, some motorcycle equipment was manufactured with not quite modern contact breakers, due to which many owners of such “bikes” often encounter problems setting up the ignition of the Izh Planet 5 motorcycle.
The best candles for IZH Jupiter 5
Hello guys! I’m writing the first post on restoring an old horse made by Izhmash.
After I successfully remembered him and brought him closer to me, you can read HERE. And then a week passed, then another, and until I forgot about it again, I decided to allocate a little bit of wood for it and off I went. Because the motorcycle was not at all prepared for winter storage, and just stood, since some summer of 2007 or 2008, on the side of the garage. I didn’t know how it would start or whether it would start at all. But a pleasant surprise awaited me. The battery, found in the dark corners of an old garage, fairly covered with dust and cobwebs, turned out to be completely dead. We dealt with it simply, sold it to the gypsies from Unix for 120 rubles, thereby receiving a discount on a new one costing 910-120 = 790 rubles.
But in order to start our thresher I also needed spark plugs, because... I brought a motorbike with just one candle, and it was a very old USSR model, and even though it was working, after checking at the stand with the guys from NGK-service, at Builders, two candles were bought for 164 rubles.
Total investment so far: 1118 forever wooden...
What's the outcome guys?! Let's see...
What I found out after I started the car... First of all, I like it so much! Of course, there are cooler bikes, etc., but damn “Izhak”! Secondly, there will be a lot of work with him. And the investment is far from final... What I found with a visual inspection... 1) Clutch, it’s missing! 2) Ignition, you need to set it according to your mind. 3) Suspension, front fork is dead, rear shock absorbers are live, but very soft. 4) Brakes, there are none! 5) The chain is stretched and needs replacement. 6) Changing the fluid, maybe I’ll start to rebuild the engine again. 7) Basics!
registration... At the moment there are no docks (lost during the move), a complete restoration is needed. All that was left of the spendthrift was a book. By the way, why is this mot doubly interesting to me! He's like a brother to me! It was purchased in the “shaggy” year of 1989 for sale, by the Urzhum store for sale on October 30, which means it was released somewhere not far within this month, roughly speaking, it is my age... Motu is 28 years old! And it works! This is cool! A bunch of little things from rubber bands to more expensive parts.
Here is an article about labeling candles. Which ones to put in the motor - see the repair instructions for the motor
You need to “read” the indices like this: A K U 17 D V R M - 1 ******9
The marking of domestic spark plugs is determined by OST 37.003.081 - 98. 1 - The first letter indicates the thread size on the spark plug body. There are two options: “A” is a thread M14x1.25, “M” is M18x1.5 2 - There are two types of installing a spark plug in the cylinder head. The most common way is to connect flat supporting surfaces (plugs and heads) through an O-ring (in this case, position “2” is empty). Another option is with a conical spark plug bearing surface (indicated by the letter “K”) 3 - The wrench size is indicated here. “U” is the hexagon size reduced to 16.0 mm, as on spark plugs for sixteen-valve engines. The letter "M" corresponds to a 19mm wrench. And if the letter is not indicated, as with most candles, then the key size is 20.8 mm 4 - The numbers correspond to heat numbers from the series 8, 11, 14, 17, 20, 23, 26. The smallest heat number corresponds to a “hot” candle, largest - “cold” 5 - Position indicates the length of the thread on the spark plug body. For candles with a flat supporting surface, the letter “D” corresponds to a length of 19 mm, the absence of a letter - 12.7 mm 6 - The thermal cone of the insulator can be positioned differently relative to the metal body of the candle. If it protrudes beyond the body, then the letter “B” appears in the designation. If the position is free, then there is no protrusion 7 - The presence of an interference suppression resistor is indicated by the letter “P”. If there is no resistor - position is empty 8 - If the central electrode is made of nickel alloy, then this is not indicated. And if the electrode has a copper core, the letter “M” appears 9 - At the end there may be a serial number of development or modernization. For example, APS and EZ spark plugs in our test were designated A17DVRM. This means that the thread of their housings has a size of M14x1.25 and a length of 19 mm. The heat rating is 17. The thermal cone of the insulator protrudes beyond the spark plug body. A resistor is built into the spark plug, and the central electrode has a copper core. But foreign manufacturers of spark plugs do not adhere to any uniform labeling rules. And their heat scales are different. If our candle becomes “colder” as the number increases, then, say, with Brisk the opposite is true. Therefore, you should select an imported analogue of domestic candles using the catalogs of manufacturers or interchangeability tables. For example, our A17DVRM candles correspond to Beru 14R-7DU, Brisk LR15YC or Champion RN9YC candles. But our test involved another “champion” - RN9YCC4. The second “C” indicates that there is a copper core not only at the central electrode, but also at the side electrode, and the “four” indicates that the gap has been increased to 1.1 millimeters. By the way, what is the situation with the gaps? Those spark plugs that Tolyatti engines are equipped with on the assembly line have such gaps. For classic VAZs this is 0.5 mm, for carburetor front-wheel drive engines it is 0.7 mm, and on spark plugs for injection VAZ engines the gap is set to 1.0 mm.
Modernization
The production of the IZH Planet-4 motorcycle has undergone a number of changes. Thus, the design used a generator whose operation is based on permanent magnets. This part also has a contactless ignition system, which, in turn, operates independently of the battery. In addition, the engine itself is equipped with a special separation-type lubrication system pump. This eliminated the need to use a gasoline-oil mixture. The IZH Planeta-4 motorcycle is equipped with a four-speed gearbox with an eccentric mechanism for disengaging the clutch and a more powerful motor chain. The front disc brake is hydraulically actuated, and the suspension system uses improved shock absorbers. In addition, changes also affected the kinematics of the brake drive for the wheel located at the rear.
Installation and configuration instructions
In IZH Planet motorcycles, be it version 3, 4 or 5, the ignition installation in accordance with the diagram must be carried out using the device that came with the motorcycle. But since it is not so easy to find this device today, we will make do with improvised means. Non-contact ignition is configured by adjusting and setting the gap of the distributor contacts. An equally important nuance is the correct setting of the moment of sparking.
Diagram and designation of parts of the IZH distributor
If your IZH Planet 3 is equipped with a single-cylinder internal combustion engine with a G-36 M generator device, then in this case the procedure for setting the gap is carried out by turning the eccentric, marked in the diagram with the number 1. In this case, bolt 2 according to the diagram must be loosened, and the eccentric itself is turned or right or left. Before setting the BSZ on products from the IZHMASH plant, the crankshaft must be turned. It rotates until the moment of greatest divergence of contacts occurs. It is in this position that the ignition of the IZH Planet 5 is adjusted - you need to ensure that the maximum gap on the contacts is around 0.35-0.45 mm.
According to experts, the ignition system should be adjusted with the cylinder head removed. In this case, the piston itself must be located in a position where it does not reach the dead center; to find out what the clearance should be in this case, you need to use the instruction book. For example, in versions 3 this parameter should be 3.5-4 mm, in Planets 4 - from 3 to 3.5 mm, and in Sports versions - from 3.5 to 3.8 mm. It is in this position that the spark will appear. The adjustment procedure in this case is performed by turning the interrupter assembly, while the bolts marked in the diagram as number 10 must be loosened.
Installation and configuration instructions
In IZH Planet motorcycles, be it version 3, 4 or 5, the ignition installation in accordance with the diagram must be carried out using the device that came with the motorcycle. But since it is not so easy to find this device today, we will make do with improvised means. Non-contact ignition is configured by adjusting and setting the gap of the distributor contacts. An equally important nuance is the correct setting of the moment of sparking.
Diagram and designation of parts of the IZH distributor
If your IZH Planet 3 is equipped with a single-cylinder internal combustion engine with a G-36 M generator device, then in this case the procedure for setting the gap is carried out by turning the eccentric, marked in the diagram with the number 1. In this case, bolt 2 according to the diagram must be loosened, and the eccentric itself is turned or right or left. Before setting the BSZ on products from the IZHMASH plant, the crankshaft must be turned. It rotates until the moment of greatest divergence of contacts occurs. It is in this position that the ignition of the IZH Planet 5 is adjusted - you need to ensure that the maximum gap on the contacts is around 0.35-0.45 mm.
According to experts, the ignition system should be adjusted with the cylinder head removed. In this case, the piston itself must be located in a position where it does not reach the dead center; to find out what the clearance should be in this case, you need to use the instruction book. For example, in versions 3 this parameter should be 3.5-4 mm, in Planets 4 - from 3 to 3.5 mm, and in Sports versions - from 3.5 to 3.8 mm. It is in this position that the spark will appear. The adjustment procedure in this case is performed by turning the interrupter assembly, while the bolts marked in the diagram as number 10 must be loosened.
Assembly diagram for IL
Adjusting the ignition, in particular, setting the gaps between the contacts of the interrupter device, should be performed in the following order:
Read also: Jacquard material for car covers It should be noted that the entire procedure must be carried out with the candles unscrewed. When you place the dipstick in the corresponding hole for the spark plug in the right cylinder, you need to turn the crankshaft with the kick starter. You need to find the top dead center and having found it, you should make several marks on the dipstick - one of the marks should be placed at the level of the hole, and the other should be located slightly higher - about 2-3 mm. After this, the crankshaft must continue to be turned, this is done until the upper mark reaches the position in which the first mark at top dead center was set (video author - Garage in the USSR).
In this position, the elements of the interrupter assembly, which is located on the lower surface, will begin to open. It should be noted that the procedure for setting the contact opening is done by turning the base, but to do this you need to loosen the bolts numbered 2 and 7. And when you can make the adjustment correctly, these screws will need to be tightened. As for directly determining the moment of rupture, it can be detected thanks to a light bulb, which must be connected in advance to the body ground and the distributor terminal.
After the torque on the right cylinder has been set, the same procedure is performed in a similar way only on the left cylinder. In general, the situation is similar, only in this case it is not the lower, but the upper base that rotates, and in this case, bolts 1 and 7 should be loosened.
Adjusting the electronic ignition system on Izh Planet 5. How to set the ignition on the Planet?
If you are the owner of an IL, the ignition of Planet 5 electronic type can be adjusted in the following way:
If you are the owner of an IZH Jupiter 5 motorcycle, then you will be interested in an article on setting up electronic ignition on an IZH Jupiter 5
As a rule, this option for setting up the ignition on Izh Planet 5 works without problems. Moreover, as a reserve for installing the ignition on Izh Planet 5, you can use a contact system for starting the power unit.
So, we figured out how to set the ignition on the Planet. With proper adjustment of the engine starting system, your motorcycle will start normally, and you will be able to experience all the delights of driving such a two-wheeled vehicle.