Chinese manufacturers are known all over the world. The cost of products may differ markedly from those in other countries. In addition, a lower price does not always mean poor quality. Products from Chinese manufacturers can be made to last, and still be sold at an affordable price.
One such product is snowmobiles. Suppliers from China have proven themselves in this market. The products are in great demand, and buyers have only positive impressions.
Which is better: a new snowmobile from China or a used snowmobile from Japan?
In this article we will not consider new snowmobiles of well-known Japanese and European brands,
since the price for them, in my opinion, is very high
Consider purchasing a snowmobile for a country house and intended for walks in the winter forest and trips to the lake
You should first decide what the mileage of your snowmobile will be over the winter?
winter in the central part of Russia is 3 maximum 4 months, naturally we are talking about a full snowy winter, when you can go skiing and snowmobiling
So: 3 months, that’s 12 weekends, of which, at best, half of which we will be able to go out into nature to have a good rest,
but on half of these days there will be blizzards, snow and other natural disasters and we will sit at home by the warm stove and won’t want to stick our noses out into the forest
There are 3 or maximum 4 weekends left when we will ride our snowmobile, have fun and enjoy nature
The average snowmobile trip takes approximately no more than 20 km per day
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during this time you have time to ride, freeze and get complete pleasure
what happens.:
4 days of 20 km is 80 kilometers,
let's add another 150 kilometers to this for the New Year holidays,
friends who come to visit you will ride another 200 kilometers,
and this is almost 500 km, to complete the picture, this must be multiplied by 2
This turns out to be an average of 1000 km of snowmobile mileage in 1 winter
and this is subject to its merciless exploitation by the entire friendly team
How many years will you have this snowmobile? I think no more than 5,
because in 5 years technology will move so far forward that everyone will want something new.
So in 5 years your snowmobile will cover 5000 km.
Is it a lot or a little?
for a snowmobile motor and transmission this is very little
the engine and gearbox on the snowmobile are installed from a motorcycle, for which 5000 mileage means nothing at all,
parts that will be subject to wear during this time: these are the ski and the track,
but practice shows that very rarely skis or a snowmobile track fail due to natural reasons of wear and tear,
most often these parts in a snowmobile break due to careless operation by its owner,
namely, driving not on snow, but on asphalt, wind-covered, hard ice and other drunken pranks
and you need to understand that no one will fix such breakdowns under warranty, such repairs are exclusively at your expense
now let's go back to the original question
new inexpensive snowmobile from China or used snowmobile from Japan
let's do the math
a more or less live Japanese-made unit costs around 500,000 rubles . After driving it for 5 years, I think you can sell it for 200 thousand.
The cost of owning a used snowmobile from Japan is 300,000 rubles for 5 years or 60 rubles per 1 km of run.
But this does not take into account possible repairs.
The calculation is simple: 60,000 rubles. per year, divide by 1000 kilometers and get 60 rubles per 1 km.
Now let’s consider buying a new snowmobile from China
the cost of a decent unit, with a 300 cubic centimeter engine, is around 200,000 rubles,
in 5 years its cost will be around 50,000 rubles.
Accordingly, we also divide 150,000 rubles. aa 5 years old
we get 30,000 rubles, this is the cost of owning a Chinese snowmobile per year, divide by 1000 km we get 30 rubles. for a 1 km walk.
the cost of owning a new snowmobile from China is 150,000 rubles for 5 years or 30 rubles. for 1 km run.
So to a first approximation
we received the cost of the walk
used snowmobile from Japan 60 rub. for 1 km
new Chinese 30 rub.
I did not take into account the cost of gasoline, how it needs to be filled into any snowmobile and this will not affect the difference in any way.
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Now let’s look at the most important problem with a used snowmobile
this is that you can get into expensive repairs at any time
after all, when buying a used item, we are forced to trust the seller’s word,
and only its owner, who at best lives in Japan, knows what actually happened to this snowmobile,
and in the worst case, a couple more owners but in the Far Eastern region,
and our “almost new” snowmobile has already swam in Lake Baikal, driven through swamps in the spring in the Khabarovsk region, crashed into a couple of trees in the Ussuri taiga, and survived other minor troubles
before selling it, of course, it was polished, the broken plastic was replaced, the oil was changed, and here he is, a handsome man standing there shining, a dream song!,
But after the first 100 kilometers the surprises begin
and instead of breathing fresh air, you load your snowmobile and take it to the service center and there you find out one unpleasant thing,
that, despite the fact that your snowmobile was purchased very inexpensively, spare parts for it cost the same as for a new expensive snowmobile
the same goes for repairs
and you can pay a price for repairs comparable to the cost of purchasing the snowmobile itself.
I’m not saying that this option will happen, but it is quite possible,
because buying a used snowmobile from Japan is a lottery - some win and some don't!
Now consider purchasing a new Chinese-made snowmobile,
yes, let the Chinese snowmobile look simpler than its Japanese counterpart
Today, the Chinese have begun to pay great attention to design and ergonomics
and soon they will catch up with not only the Japanese, but also the Europeans
the main advantage of the Chinese is that they can make modern transmissions cheaply and without unnecessary electronics
that is, they take a Japanese engine from 2-3 years ago, remove unnecessary electronics and unnecessary bells and whistles from it and get
simple and reliable design, which is very important for Russian conditions
The Chinese have a very large unification of units and components
Finding a spare part for a Chinese snowmobile is often much easier and cheaper than for a Japanese one
so draw your own conclusions:
The likelihood that a new Chinese engine will fail is much lower than its worn-out Japanese counterpart.
The same applies to the transmission,
the cost of spare parts is lower for the Chinese than for the Japanese
and I’ll repeat again, breaking a ski on a snowmobile or tearing a caterpillar track in our forest is a piece of cake
Chinese snowmobiles can be repaired in any garage or even a bathhouse
since their design is very simple and does not require special tools, but with the Japanese you will have to drag yourself to the service center and not only will you waste time, but you can also leave a lot of money behind
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So, is the statement still justified that it is more profitable to buy a Chinese snowmobile than a used Japanese one?
In my opinion
Where is it better to buy a snowmobile from China in a showroom or online?
It's difficult to advise here,
but you need to take into account that when you buy equipment from a motorcycle dealership, you are not paying cheap rent for premises, salaries for employees and warehouse stock, which is also stored in a warehouse at the motorcycle dealership, not for free.
Therefore, today I would consider buying a snowmobile from China on the Internet as a good alternative to buying in an offline store .
after all, a snowmobile is still a complex technique and requires certain skills and the ability to hold wrenches in your hands, but
if you can tell the difference between the carburetor in your car and the starter,
Assembling the snowmobile that came to you by mail or from an online store yourself will not be difficult
Moreover, today there are many instructions on the Internet
how to properly assemble a new snowmobile out of the box
and I assure you it is very simple
or if you doubt your abilities, you can order assembly by our specialists, we will come to the site and assemble the snowmobile, start it, show you how to maintain and operate it
it's actually very simple
and at the same time, you need to take into account that buying a snowmobile in an online store will be more profitable due to the fact that we do not incur overhead costs for maintaining the salon, employees and warehouse stock.
After all, no one is surprised now by buying a phone or TV via the Internet, and I think that in another year we will also be buying cars via the Internet
Another important question
Service
As noted by users, after about 500–1000 km, Chinese snowmobiles require replacing the engine oil, stretched tracks, valve adjustment, and gearbox chain. During operation, you should often pay attention to the variator, drive belts, fastenings, cables, steering, power supply, and brakes. If a person is competent, it will only take him one day to identify and fix problems. Within the framework of TO-1, it will be possible to additionally adjust all nodes for a specific consumer, since by default? After production, all settings are at “compromise positions”. TO-2 should be completed at the end of the winter season, regardless of the mileage traveled. And already in the summer it is worth carrying out the so-called conservation of the unit. It includes:
- weakening the tension of the tracks;
- unloading the suspension (using racks or a regular block);
- changing the oil in the gearbox and engine;
- battery disconnection;
- pouring gasoline, preservative, stabilizer into the tank and running it through the fuel system;
- then pour preservative through the carburetor to prevent condensation from forming, and run the engine again;
- Unscrew the spark plugs and pour aerosol preservative under them, then crank the crankshaft.
This completes the conservation procedure. To preserve plastic elements, they are coated with wax, and before use? wash off with a special alcohol solution.
Unfortunately, most people don't consider the difference between driving a car and driving a snowmobile. And precisely because of this, with their attitude they can ruin excellent technology. But what to do if the machine still breaks down? Where and how to repair it? In principle, all snowmobiles from China can be repaired either with your own hands or in a specialized service center. [ads-pc-2]
how to buy a snowmobile from China with a guarantee?
You can order a snowmobile directly from China itself,
but in this case, if there is a breakdown, you will have to contact the manufacturer directly in China
The Chinese today take their reputation seriously,
if a guarantee is indicated on the plant’s website, then they will not refuse you, but you need to understand: until we find the cause of the breakdown, until they can send the required part to Russia, 2 or even 3 months will pass, spring will come and, in general, the snowmobile will no longer be needed.
so I would advise buying a snowmobile made in China in a Russian online store
since when equipment is imported to Russia, spare parts are always placed in the container in case of breakdowns, and within Russia delivery of the necessary spare parts takes a maximum of a week or even less
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and again, it’s easier for fellow countrymen to solve the issue; they’ll tell you what needs to be done and give advice so that this doesn’t happen again
because most breakdowns still occur due to the fault of the owner and improper operation of the snowmobile.
Snowmobiles brand "Stealth"
This brand is not entirely Chinese. This is a joint production of Russia and China. The plant initially produced a different product. It is famous for its bicycles, ATVs and motorcycles. Then they decided to expand the list of products. A snowmobile recently entered it.
One of the first snowmobiles, the V800, gained popularity. It was developed by no other company. Domestic and Chinese made their contribution.
Snowmobiles of this brand are produced in our country. Namely in the Bryansk region, in the city of Zhukovka.
If we talk about the equipment, the Stealth is not inferior to imported snowmobiles. The vehicle is even equipped with an additional device - a winch. Although some consumers consider this a minus. In general, the equipment of the model is very convenient and functional. There is a panel for the driver, a seat for the passenger, which is equipped with a backrest. This is, of course, a plus. After all, there is less chance of falling off the snowmobile while driving. The Stealth has a heating function for the gas trigger and steering grips. There is a trailer attachment - a tow bar. The price is the same as for snowmobiles of other Russian brands.
It’s too early to talk about reliability and practicality. After all, the Stealth vehicle has only recently appeared on the market and has not yet fully proven itself.
Which snowmobile to choose for hunting
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Dima79rus
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I want to buy a snowmobile for hunting purposes: 1. So that it doesn’t get buried in deep loose snow 2. So that it can steer normally through the forest 3. It can pull heavy loads and of course reliability and maintainability
The rest is not critical, of course I want the max speed to be normal, but as far as I understand, it’s not all in one
I'm looking for advice, preferably based on practice
Forester9868
Veteran of the forum
It happens all in one) I’m already using season 8 BRP Scandic Sky DOO SWT 800 (injector)) By the way, Wolverine is his complete copy in appearance. It never broke down - although it flew away a couple of times very seriously. The mechanic adjusted the glands, screwed the plastic extensions on with a couple of bolts, and that was it. The main thing when choosing is the utilitarian front suspension in the form of glasses (you won’t break it, you won’t kill it). Caterpillar - 60 cm - this is important for loose snow, virgin soil and dragging drags (sleighs) WITH ELK HUNTERS mixed in
Injection engine - minimal consumption and silence when driving (consumption is half that of two-stroke engines). A 40 liter tank was somehow enough for 400 km. Suspension and traction are enough for two people on it, plus an elk for 400 and a hunter riding on it (March - above-zero weather). Vikings 3 nervously smoked and coughed on the sidelines, burying themselves even without a sled)
The standard halogen light is also enough. True, such devices are no longer produced (There are only analogues with less cubic capacity engines
garant-motoservice
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iluha
Ski Doo Tundra LT 600 ACE Here is a good poaching snowmobile)))))) Economical, quiet, the lightest of utilities. It will fit everywhere. If you need to give a second lift, you can buy drags. Where it will pass, except for Ranger 49, it will also fit into every crack, there is nothing else to do. It’s just that the Ranger is more for cruising, although the cross-country ability is the same as that of the Tundra.
Now I want to buy one for myself.
Hangar 8
sasha4433
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sasha4433
Zhenya83
and 79 per region.
50 something yes. pampering))))
I’ll tell you what: in our company we go hunting (well, let’s put it this way. rest, but also hunting, that’s not the point, we go with guns, ice augers, mostly we go to Karelia, winter quarters, very deep snow of varying densities) - BRP Scandic VT 600 E -TEK (2T, if anyone is not in the know, 115 bald), rider - father, 52 years old, great experience, all on irons, all on telescopes, rides perfectly and everywhere, sports person. - the same Scandic, only the previous one (from the 2000s), the engine is rather weak (like a 550th air? Those in the know, please correct me), the rider is 57 years old, 120 weight, obese Scandic kilos are 280-300 (I I’m not sure, but it feels like 300 kg around, the grip is 35-40 (? Well, it seems to me so, I didn’t climb in my hand) So these two snowmobiles with two different riders ride VERY differently. And where does the first, second he sits down stupidly, because sometimes he’s too lazy to tear his ass off, stand up, push on the footrest, etc. But if you put the second rider on the first snowmobile, he rides the same way, only faster on the rolled road))) And the first one for the ancient Scandic - that’s it ok, yes, it’s not fast, but it doesn’t sit anywhere (my father had one for a long time). By the way, I’ve ridden one myself, it’s great everywhere (well, that’s what it seemed to me then, I haven’t ridden much in anything else), but the steering is lousy.
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— I rode third on Polaris VT. 50-k goose with a tiny toe and 85 horses! but this is a lie, no, and there were no these horses in this sad shit, it feels like maybe 60-65. I drove, obviously, faster than both of them through the forest due to active steering and the convenience of steering itself (TELESCOPES are crap!! and they have no advantages! It’s great to ride through the forest with levers and it’s more convenient to go around trees), only on a straight line the E-TEK has more power, the rest lagged behind. The scrap is vigorous, the most vigorous mammoth shit of all mammoth shit of this level from those times/technologies.
All three of them carried the sleigh; the sleigh contained 200 barrels and all sorts of junk (I think 230-250 kg). Moose weighing 400 kg were not transported. And anyway, other than in Kamchatka, they don’t seem to be found like this. Naturally, it’s easier for the first Scandic. E-TEK's consumption is not huge. Well, two times smaller than the Viking))))
I’m now on a Ranger 49, E-TEK 115 mares, 250 seems to be its full weight. Caterpillar 40th, toe 59th!! Very narrow, relatively rolly. what can I say. there are all these VT and SVT. Far and dense) And through the forest and uphill and along clearings, and even in a straight line (it doesn’t matter rolled or powder) and even more so! I stopped carrying a shovel, I just don’t need it. This means that it is only a windtruck.
Sled? Easily! I don’t carry barrels, but 100 liters of gasoline (2 canisters for fifty dollars each) and junk are light. And the lack of lowering is not a problem. Of course, it depends where you go.
In general, there is an excellent resource snowmobile.ru, there are topics about hunting, etc.
Regarding the Viking 540: ancient and indestructible, low-power and heavy. It seems to me that the Viking 540 and the thrill of riding are hardly compatible concepts. Probably, if purely commercial purposes are convenient...
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All of the above is my personal opinion, I don’t pretend to be true, I hope it will help in some way)
Found about the 79th region) Shalom!!)
By the way, if anyone needs it, there are two absolutely NEW VK540, one limited, the other regular. They are in Moscow. All 14 years old. PM me if so)
Peculiarities
Snowmobiles from China come in absolutely all types that are presented on the modern market. Such vehicles can boast a fairly low cost, which sets them apart from domestic or European models. Despite their availability, they are quite reliable, environmentally friendly and famous for their safety.
The main feature of Chinese-made snowmobiles is their wide and varied range.
- Children's models boast a high degree of safety, a speed limit function, and the possibility of remote control using a remote control.
- Features of touring snowmobile models are the ability to withstand long distances, as well as providing the maximum level of comfort.
- Mountain snowmobiles are characterized by impressive power - they are the ideal solution for moving in difficult to reach places. It should be noted that only an experienced person with good physical fitness can handle the control of such a model.
- Utilitarian – an ideal solution for hunting, fishing or work. The main advantage of this type is its high cross-country ability.
- Sports models are actively used for competitions. These snowmobiles are capable of speeds of up to 200 km per hour and are intended for only one person.
Snowmobile brand "300cc"
This brand has recently appeared on the world market. The new model has a four-stroke engine, 17 horsepower, liquid cooling and an electric starter. The snowmobile boasts such a useful function as heated handles and Hi-Lo-Off trigger. The vehicle is equipped with a L - N - R variator. For driver convenience, a multifunctional panel is provided. It shows the fuel level in the tank and the temperature in the engine.
This snowmobile is suitable for those who travel specifically in rural areas. According to the manufacturers' plans, this vehicle will be purchased by fishermen who like to spend time away from the bustle of the city in their “fishing” places. This model will also be of interest to young people. This is extra fun during the winter months.
Of course, the weight of the snowmobile is considerable - almost 135 kilograms. It can accelerate to 70 km per hour. To refuel the “iron horse”, twenty liters of gasoline are required.
Manufacturers
The modern Celestial Empire offers a huge number of models from leading manufacturers, which differ in price, appearance and technical characteristics. Several brands can be noted among the most sought after and popular on the market. We offer a brief overview of them.
- Snowrunner. The company offers fairly large vehicles that also have an impressive weight. When fully equipped, this model weighs 125 kg. The main advantage is that the manufacturer takes care of all maintenance concerns, which sets it apart from others. In addition, the company’s units boast an affordable price, which is important when purchasing Chinese equipment. If you use transport according to the rules established by the manufacturer, then no problems should arise, and the models will be able to last a long time.
- Polaris. Snowmobiles of this brand have been on the market for half a century. The company focuses on the accessibility of its models so that every working person can afford such a purchase. Not only ordinary people, but also athletes are showing increased interest in the brand’s products. The manufacturer's model range is so large that everyone can choose the optimal snowmobile for themselves. Samples are manufactured in strict compliance with all norms and regulations.
- 300cc. Despite the fact that this brand appeared on the market relatively recently, it has managed to gain popularity among fans of such vehicles. Most of the company's snowmobiles boast a 4-stroke power unit with a capacity of 17 horsepower or more. In addition, the manufacturer’s engineers use a liquid cooling system, which is considered optimal and ensures the durability of the vehicles. Among the useful features that the company's snowmobiles are equipped with are heated grips. Most 300cc models are designed for people living in rural areas.
First of all, we are talking about fishermen, who often spend time away from the bustle of the city.
- "Stealth". This brand is not considered fully Chinese, since it is a joint project of the PRC and Russia, but at the same time it occupies first place in the ranking. Initially, the plant specialized in the production of bicycles, but then the management decided to expand the product line. In terms of equipment, the company's vehicles are in no way inferior to European models. You can even find many additional devices here, including a winch. Users also note that the equipment is at a high level, and the models are very comfortable and functional.
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Snowrunner brand snowmobile
The size of the vehicle is quite bulky. Therefore it has a large mass. When fully equipped, it weighs about 125 kilograms. According to the happy owners of these snowmobiles, the product of this brand has a big advantage. The manufacturer independently carries out maintenance - 1, maintenance - 2. And this bonus attracts potential buyers. The price of this brand of snowmobile is affordable. If the vehicle is used according to all the rules, there is no overload and good care, then the snowmobile will last a long time.
Selection criteria
In order for a snowmobile to fully perform the tasks assigned to it, it is worthwhile to approach the process of selecting it correctly. First of all, you should decide on the purpose of the purchase, because vehicles of this type for work, leisure or sports differ in their functionality.
In addition, it is worth taking into account the characteristics of the terrain in which the snowmobile will be used . If a large amount of snow does not fall in the region, then you can safely purchase any model you like. If snowfalls are heavy, then it is best to give preference to sports options that boast an elongated track. Such models have good cross-country ability, so the trip will be a pleasure.
If you are planning trips with your family, then it is best to give preference to utilitarian models that have a wide track. The only drawback is the low speed, but for many users this is not important.
Snowmobile brand "Polaris"
These vehicles have been on the market for more than half a century. The very first models immediately resonated with consumers. Moreover, these were ordinary workers who could afford to purchase such an “iron horse.” The trust has survived to this day. The Polaris brand remains relevant. However, the manufacturing plant was going through difficult times. The company changed leaders frequently. But, despite the difficulties, the plant still operates successfully and pleases its customers.
Now interest in these snowmobiles has grown. They are purchased not only by workers, but also by athletes. The model range is constantly updated. The latest sample was manufactured in compliance with all modern standards.
Features of operation
Before starting use, it is best to carry out an initial inspection and run-in of the vehicle, as this allows you to increase engine speed, making its operation smoother. In order for the snowmobile to be in good condition for the maximum amount of time, you need to pay close attention to its maintenance, which includes:
- a thorough check of all existing components and connections;
- stretching tracks;
- examining design details to identify problems;
- work on correct adjustment of skis and fuel elements;
- study of electronic equipment;
- starting the power unit and adjusting it.
The first few kilometers should not be driven at high speed, as this may cause the engine to overheat and completely damage it. Some models require a long initial run-in, which is at least 500 km. During this period, it is better not to overload the snowmobile.
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Competent maintenance includes studying the variators, cable, drive belt, electrical supply system, as well as monitoring the braking system. When storing a vehicle in the summer, some parts of the snowmobile may fail. This most often happens with the track, which can dry out if it is not tensioned correctly in the first place. In addition, this may cause the rollers to break.
If a cheap Chinese-made snowmobile is used actively, then it will be necessary to inject the suspension. The oil change should also be carried out taking into account the manufacturer's recommendations. After maintenance, fuel must be added until the tank is completely full, as the presence of air space can lead to the formation of condensation, resulting in water entering the fuel.
Chinese snowmobiles are affordable, but at the same time boast excellent cross-country ability and high quality. The main thing is to pay due attention to the maintenance of the models and operate them in accordance with the manufacturer’s recommendations.
We evaluate and take a closer look
Of course, you need to be prepared when buying a Chinese snowmobile. And when choosing your favorite ones from China, it is worth keeping in mind that they behave more rudely than other foreign ones, but are more sensitive than domestic ones. This means that the running-in should take place according to a certain scheme: low revs and low speed (up to 20 km/h) for the first 50–70 km, and then, until the odometer reaches the figure of 600 km, gradually increase the speed, testing the engine at full speed .
Caterpillar ? also an object of close attention. It is very unique, and as soon as it starts to turn unstably, you should immediately check (and correct) the track drive.
It is worth noting that the fuel tank contains preservative additives left after production, which burn out during the first 500–600 km of running. Therefore, it will be necessary to check and, if necessary, clean the fuel system.
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If you are not sure that your dog will not eat someone, or that someone will not eat your dog, please leave the dog at home. Lenya, finally return this damn chest! By the way, the entrance to the place is indicated by this poster
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Well, actually, all gentlemen, ask questions in this thread, we really hope that the weather will cooperate with us. ps Guys, who will go to the gathering place in a few days, please sign up. EVENT SPONSOR https://biostop.org/ - Biostop - clothing against ticks and mosquitoes
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