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Pleasant advantages

The engine itself is not demanding in operation; it produces power up to 20 horsepower. It is refilled, like most representatives of this model range, with a gasoline-oil mixture, ensuring good treatment of the piston group and bearings.

The Izh Planet-5 motorcycle has a small fuel tank, only 17 liters , but this does not increase its appetite. Consumption in the city for every hundred kilometers is equal to four liters, and on the highway at maximum acceleration, all five.

The oncoming flow perfectly cools the engine, protecting it from overheating. At the front there is a standard telescopic fork with two shock absorbers. At the rear, the pendulum suspension is also equipped with a pair of shock-absorbing mechanisms.

Front brakes are manual, rear brakes are foot controlled, the brake itself is shoe brake. In the photo of Izh Planet-5, small eighteen-inch wheels are clearly visible, and the design itself is quite light and does not reach two hundredweight.

Planet 5 does not develop speed

Planet 5 does not develop speed

#1 Post by Gazelevod » Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:10

Re: Planet 5 does not develop speed

#2 Post by Vitaly » Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:36

Even the sound in the air doesn't change? Then check the intake and exhaust again.

If the sound changes, then put a mark on the normal OZ, start it at late and turn it to normal. See what happens

Re: Planet 5 does not develop speed

#3 Post by Bili Bones » Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:50

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#4 Post by Eduard2 » Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:51

Re: Planet 5 does not develop speed

#5 Post by Gazelevod » Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:47

Re: Planet 5 does not develop speed

#6 Post by Vitaly » Sat Apr 02, 2016 13:16

No. The quality of the mixture changes, but not that much. The quantity will also not increase much until the engine starts to gain momentum. Turn the ignition

Added after 7 minutes 12 seconds: When I had a 6 volt one, the ignition was constantly off. It happens that the steam locomotive was running at full throttle. Revolutions 60 per minute

How is the generator installed? Is there any misalignment between the rotor and stator?

Re: Planet 5 does not develop speed

#7 Post by Gazelevod » Sat Apr 02, 2016 13:18

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Why did high speeds and poor light disappear when the engine was running on IZH Planet-3?

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It does not pick up speed because the ignition is not set correctly or the carburetor is not adjusted and for the same reason there is no good light since the generator does not develop full power.

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Why didn’t they invent a perpetual motion machine based on the rotation of the planet (or planets), since this process is carried out constantly and does not stop?

Why can’t you stand on a stool and rise into the air with it simply by bending your arms?

You always need a point of support. It is quite problematic to come up with a device for processing the energy of the Earth's rotation. If you need a universal and almost eternal source of energy, then there is always the Sun.

Some winds (such as trade winds) are a consequence of the Coriolis force, which arises from the rotation of the Earth. Tides, although caused by the Moon, are still associated with the rotation of the Earth.

And humanity actively uses the energy of wind and tides.

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Metallic knocking sound when the engine is running. The speed fluctuates xx. It often stalls. Doesn't work. The more electronics are turned on, the lower the speed. What's broken?

It’s possible that the liner rotated, you can guess endlessly, you need at least a video of the engine working, what car? As for the electrics, most likely there is a bad charge coming from the generator.

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Compression lost on cylinders 3 and 4 of the 406 engine, what should I do?

First, pour 5 cubes of oil into the cylinder and check the compression again, then do the same with the next cylinder. If the compression has increased by 1-2 strokes, then the problem is with the piston, if it has remained practically unchanged, then with the valves. And now it’s worth planning your further actions.

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Why doesn't the navigator show speed?

on the iPhone after updating to ios14 there was such a glitch in the Yandex navigator. It determines the location, but there are no speed bars or restrictions, it doesn’t draw. Cured by deleting the application and reinstalling it.

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Why don’t they install a generator in electric cars so that the engine, in addition to the wheels, rotates it and thereby replenishes the supply of electricity?

During braking moments, the main engine of the electric vehicle operates in recuperation mode, that is, it transfers energy back to the battery. This technology was not invented yesterday; the same thing happened in hybrid cars and even in electric trains. For decades now, electric trains have also been releasing energy back into the network when braking. A generator is not needed; it will only reduce the overall efficiency of the system, taking away engine power. Thus, the main engine operates in generator mode only when it makes sense.

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IZH Planet 5

• Year of manufacture: 1989
• Engine: 2-stroke, single-cylinder.
• Volume: 347 cm3
• Power: 20-25 hp (BSZ, intake modification)
• Torque: 28-29 Nm
• Transmission: manual, 4-speed
• Maximum speed: ? (at least 120 km/h)
• Acceleration 0-100 km/h per second: ?

IZH Planet 5, a motorcycle that in our century is a symbol of a bygone era. In the article below I decided to dispel some of the stereotypes formed around these motorcycles and tell the story of my motorcycle, which was given a second life, despite the fact that the first one had not yet begun.
Some technical issues were also touched upon. Nowadays, Soviet technology and IZH motorcycles in particular are more likely to be the standard of fragility, for which many blame them, but for some reason everyone does not want to take into account how old these motorcycles are; more than half of the IZHs cruising along the country’s roads have already outlived their useful life more than once , finding an IZH in a 100% original is a rather difficult task, any technology has a resource, let those who call IZH rubbish try to find some Yamaha or Honda that works like a clock, which is a quarter of a century old, which has gone a couple of hundred thousand kilometers without replacing any mechanisms like bearings, seals, etc. Also, the conditions of their operation are not taken into account, it’s unlikely that anyone would climb on an R1 to rush through forests and climb into swamps, an IZh will climb, but I doubt it with an R1... In addition, many IZHs remained in villages where there are no conditions for high-quality repairs, high-quality spare parts, which IZHam does not apply at all (another excuse in the direction of damage), and for people who understand repairs well, IZH is the first motorcycle for many people. it is cheap because of its simplicity, and repairs out of ignorance in most cases are carried out using a chisel and a sledgehammer.

Let's step back from dispelling stereotypes and start a story about a specific motorcycle.

This P5 was purchased in 1989, new from the store, Volna department store in the hero city of Murmansk, it covered 113 kilometers, the 13th kilometer after the first hundred was not lucky, the magic of numbers, under circumstances unknown to me, the face was broken (front wheel together with the fork, it twisted and led towards the engine, and the left part was scattered along the road (the glove compartment with the battery was torn off, the arches, turn signals, footrests, the headlight rim, the handle on the steering wheel, everything was as it should be. At the same time, back in Soviet times, the owner bought a new factory a fork and a factory fender, but for some reason everything was left abandoned, and if I’m not mistaken, until the winter of 2010 the motorcycle stood motionless for almost a quarter of a century, almost nothing had time to rot or rust, fortunately in 1989 the factory preservation lubricant was not washed off the motorcycle, although it is very strange to drive 113 kilometers in lubricant, peeling this stuck oil from the engine and mufflers was not a fun task.In the winter of 2010, the motorcycle was purchased, please don’t ask how much, other than “gifted” I won’t say anything more. Having stood again until the summer of 2011, the IZh waited for the start of its second life, the original fork was installed, it was true that it had to be painted again, the entire steering column was rebuilt. The arches were straightened and repainted, the battery glove compartment also had to be corrected, and both glove compartments were repainted. All the preservation grease was washed off, in some places even the seals remained, some light bulbs were changed to LEDs, some poor battery was bought, “Tyumen” if I’m not mistaken, and the actual launch. The ignition was not touched, they mixed oil with gasoline, poured it in, but it wouldn’t start, the reason was quickly found, there was no spark, the fault was that the wire had flown off the ignition switch, they didn’t keep track of the fork during the replacement process, the wire was returned, but the motorcycle still didn’t start, there was a spark , but the spark plug was dry, they poured a couple of cubes of gasoline from the tank into the spark plug hole, pressed the kick button - with half a turn, the engine that had been standing for a quarter of a century came to life and shook the floor in the garage, the feeling at that moment was indescribable, it is impossible to describe them. After working for a couple of seconds, the engine stalled again, this did not affect the resulting sensations in any way, rather it even embellished them. The problem was clear, the carburetor began to be flushed, the gasoline that had been in the tank for so many years gave a strange sediment similar to soot, which clogged everything possible. Everything was washed and put back together, the engine started, no longer at half a turn, it worked at high speeds with decent vibrations, after a little warming up I drove 100 meters away from the garage, the speed dropped to ~300, few would believe that the engine can operate at such speeds , the planet was able to, the dancing with the tambourine continued for a long time, the engine cooled down, worked normally, after warming up the speed dropped, there was no reaction to the throttle, subsequent attempts to start it were accompanied only by a squeal from the wild recoil of the kick starter. After a couple of days of thinking, it dawned on me: several capacitors were purchased for a VAZ classic, one was installed and the motorcycle worked almost as expected. But the idle speed was still not properly adjusted, the ignition instantly blew my mind with its archaism, this is perhaps the weakest unit in the engine, but at that time there was nothing else in the USSR, except perhaps induction sensors on batteryless motorcycles like Minsk and Voskhod. A set of BSZ "SoveK" with FUOZ was purchased, later, after much dancing with setting up a VAZ-2108 coil, NGK spark plugs and a silicone explosive wire, the engine worked as it seemed fabulous compared to contact ignition, but alas, still not as it should. After thinking again, I decided to look into the crank chamber, removing the piston chamber, I saw about half a liter of oil there, my thoughts were confirmed, and the new engine had to be halved - replacing the left crankshaft oil seal. After replacing the oil seal, the engine worked as a Planet engine should really work.

Until 2013, a lot of work was carried out, the motorcycle was completely repainted, an alarm system with ignition blocking, motion sensors, a gear reset sensor was installed, the engine was painted with heat-resistant silver paint, which radically changed the appearance of the motorcycle, the type of muffler was slightly changed, Michelin tires were installed for 4,000 rubles . for a tire, many were screaming about this, saying that it’s nonsense to install tires that cost more than a motorcycle, well, everyone has their own opinion on this matter, many of those screaming don’t think it’s nonsense to spend 4,000 on beer and hashish in one evening. The front wheel hub is welded with argon and machined, because after the impact a crack appeared. A huge number of other works have been carried out that could take a long time to list.

In the middle of the 2013 season, the motorcycle was registered (with new numbers), and all documents were received. The total of all expenses from the moment of purchase (not counting the cost of the motorcycle and the cost of gasoline/oil) exceeded 60 thousand, the exact amount is difficult to say, the range is 60-70 thousand. In 2 months the motorcycle ran a little over 3000 kilometers, on 92 gasoline, oil in Motul 510 fuel.

And so, the most interesting thing that was discussed at the very beginning, breakdowns, over ~3300 kilometers this season the following breakdowns happened:

1) The spark plugs have died many times, the carburetor is adjusted well, there is no carbon deposits on the spark plugs at all, there is a brown coating. The last time I installed Bosch, purchased in Soviet times, for the GAZ-24 and the problems disappeared. It’s not the motorcycle’s fault, it’s solely the quality of modern spare parts.

2) The spring of the pawls on the gear shift shaft burst (gears were downshifted with great difficulty), the motorcycle is partly to blame here, this spring is made of rather fragile steel, for a quarter of a century it was under tension in a stationary state, then it began to click hundreds of times a day, the phenomenon is called — metal fatigue is absolutely normal, I was not surprised and solved the breakdown within one evening, fortunately the simplicity of the design and maintainability of the IZh are fully justified.

3) Due to the contactless washing, water filled into all the cracks and the wires on the ignition switch oxidized, the light began to disappear periodically, after moving the cover with the wires, the problem went away, but the ignition wire was still poorly connected, for a long time I could not understand what was wrong, so I replaced it switch and coil, spark plugs 200 times, the motorcycle stalled for a month whenever it wanted and immediately started and confidently raced on, it was unpleasant when this happened at traffic lights. A month later, when the contact disappeared altogether, I still decided to look at this lock, suddenly he cursed for a long time when he realized the elementary nature of the problem.

4) This should have been indicated in the first paragraph, the first breakdown was a broken clutch cable, the clutch cable got stuck in the handle and it didn’t rotate, the cable pulled sideways and it burst due to overload, it’s not the motorcycle’s fault, not a single cable can withstand this for long, and the handles are not original they stand, I just didn’t think to sharpen them.

That’s basically all, over 3000 kilometers, in 2 months, few people travel that much on a motorcycle (of those who live in the city), in the villages there is clearly nothing to do, they travel from breakdown to breakdown, so that the motorcycle stands up tightly and I didn’t go anywhere - I never did, I always left under my own power. Any damage can be easily repaired with a screwdriver and an adjustable wrench. When you keep an eye on everything, everything is lubricated and all contacts are in order, everything is set up - IZH rushes like a tank everywhere, in any weather and at any time of the year, this motorcycle also drove in the summer in the heat through traffic jams (not every 2t with air will tolerate this) , and in downpours so that the muffler went into puddles, and in winter at -30 I raked out snowdrifts, it will always pull it out from anywhere, and you always know that it will take you home no matter what.

Conclusion: IZH, with proper maintenance and care, will work like a clock and will always help out, it would be hard to say that this motorcycle is a bucket of bolts, and that it constantly breaks down, this is just a stereotype that was created by people who understand nothing about technology, you just need to make an allowance for very long age and operating conditions of these motorcycles.

Answers from experts

Serega Yurevich:

turn the right knob down) helped me!

nik smirnov:

It may be necessary to adjust the ignition timing. or carburetor. Also check the condition of the seals.

Artem Mironov:

Possible actions. POWER Rinse and blow out the carb. Adjust the fuel level. camera. carb Adjust the mixture (rich/lean) - raise/lower the needle in the carb flap. Clogged air filter - try without it Check the gasoline supply (filter/faucet/debris in the tank/no hole in the tank cap, a lot of oil in gasoline/bad gasoline) Adjustment screw, all the way and 1.5 turns back (and generally check the pin at the end there must be a cone) There is a carb with a choke cable - check that the choke is turned off. IGNITION change the spark plug, check the moment of spark supply (the spark is supplied at the moment the contact breaks) which should work ahead of schedule (when the piston has not reached the top 3 -4 mm)

other: poor piston (compression) condition, play in the crankshaft connecting rod, bad seals (oil gets in from the clutch side)

Victor:

You forgot about the muffler, sometimes they get clogged with crap and the motorcycle doesn't run. We wet the chimney sweep, clean, clean, specifically, specifically…. generally clean

Find of the year: The IZH Jupiter motorcycle with a sidecar stood in the garage for 35 years, never going out on the highway

Something interesting is happening with IZH Jupiter motorcycles. Various models of this series are found in garages completely untouched with enviable regularity. Several times in our country such motorcycles were found right in the factory box. This particular device was found in the Poltava region, in the city of Kremenchug.

So, IZH Jupiter-4, manufactured in 1982, turquoise. According to the last owner, the car is completely new and has never been started. The speedometer of the IZH shows a mileage of 31 kilometers. Most likely, it appeared during factory calibration of the motors.

Some liquid was found in the motorcycle tank. It turned out to be diesel fuel, and not a mixture of gasoline and oil. Apparently, it was flooded by the last owner to prevent the unit from rusting from the inside. There is nothing surprising in this, because for the last 36 years the motorcycle has simply been sitting in the garage. It is worth thanking the owner - the IL has been preserved in its original “conveyor” form.

Over the years, on a motorcycle, small spots of corrosion still appear in places, appearing mainly on external elements. Despite this, overall Jupiter 4 is in excellent condition. Even the original paint of the vehicle has not faded over time.

The motorcycle wasn't even registered yet. Among the documents he has only a (still Soviet) certificate-invoice. It is noteworthy that IZH was purchased almost 3,600 km from Kremenchug, in the village of Talnakh on September 17, 1982. Here it is - harsh Soviet logistics. Were motorcycles with sidecars really such a rarity in those years? It is also interesting that the certificate indicates the exact cost of IZ Jupiter-4. It is 1,427 rubles. The car was sold in the Household Goods store of the TalnakhTorg representative office.

According to the Soviet classification, IZH Jupiter-4 is a middle-class road motorcycle, which is designed for driving on roads with different surfaces. The bike was produced from 1980 to 1985.

If we compare Jupiter-4 with the previous model, the engine should be noted first. Its power was increased from 25 to 28 horsepower. The engine has 2 cylinders. In this regard, a couple more discs were added to the motorcycle's clutch. The fourth model also acquired a shield in the crew section, which was attached to the fork, and not to the yoke.

The new product also received fundamentally new 12-volt electrical equipment. It had a large headlight with an asymmetrical beam diffuser that did not blind drivers in the oncoming lane. The installation location of the rear light has also been changed, making the motorcycle even more visible. The updated instrument panel fits perfectly into the new model. All the filling in IZ Jupiter-4 complied with international standards.

The design of the transport also had its drawbacks. The first and most important thing can be considered a huge number of terminal connections in the electrical wiring. Because of this, failures often occur in various parts of electrical equipment. The motorcycle engine itself had a very weak crankshaft.

It was improved only in 1983. Compared to the third and fifth models, the engine speed is too high at maximum power. This makes it very demanding on lubricants. This detail also generally had a bad effect on the performance of the motorcycle, especially when riding over rough terrain.

It should also be added that the mass of IZ Jupiter-4 is 160 kg. With a side trailer it increases to 255 kg. The maximum speed of the vehicle is 125 and 95 km/h, respectively. A mixture of gasoline (A-76) and oil is used as fuel. Consumption is 6.2 (7.5) liters per 100 km.

please tell me why Izh Planet 5 is gaining momentum poorly

Published May 23, 2018

please tell me why Izh Planet 5 is gaining momentum poorly

Try connecting it to a straight woman. Plus from the battery, minus from the cams. If that doesn't help, try starting it and simply disconnecting the battery.

I have the same problem, help me

change the condenser on the ignition!

I have the same thing, only it stalls when I give it gas, I cleaned the carb, adjusted the ignition. I changed the contact, sometimes it works well, then again it works poorly. Help

Yes, he pours like a bitch. It's the carburetor!

Same problem. I cleaned the carb, adjusted the ignition, lowered the needle to the middle. The speed began to pick up better, but it still doesn’t pull. This is not a capacitor; if it had broken through, the motorcycle would not have started at all.

hello, please tell me: I launch Planet 5 from a car battery, it works very poorly, as soon as I cordon off the battery everything works great!?

It’s also impossible for me to stop talking at all, I’m just choking

I don't know what to do

kander change 100 pounds

please tell me the motorcycle does not start at full throttle

please tell me the motorcycle does not start at full throttle

there in the carb it's flooded! Gasoline is all rushing out of the air seat on the high needle and puts it in the second position! and installs normal jigs!

pour less gasoline

please tell me why it doesn’t develop burrs

Buy a new carburetor and don't bother

in the carburetor well, the well itself is probably broken and the jingler falls out and the needle jumps, it will choke and does not pull, replace the well and everything will be fine

Turn the boost screw and look at the float level and generally throw the fuck out this carb and put in a normal K-62I

overflows and the ignition needs to be adjusted

Unscrew the glass from the plug and clean it

The armor wire sews in all directions at high speeds, we need a new one. and in the video he is pouring gasoline;)

In short, IZh Planet 5 has 1 cylinder, and IZH Jupiter 5 has 2 cylinders, so IZH Planet 5 gains less speed than Jupiter)

Overflowing, change the carb

Fuck, put the air on, turn down the mixture and try

the needle in the carburetor on the choke fell off

Pekar carburetor, ours or China?! - most likely the problem is there. especially if you changed the gearbox. set - spare The parts may not be original. Just as they wrote earlier: change the capacitor, armored wire, spark plug (find a known working ignition coil) and set the ignition to normal

You're a fagot on a scoop.. ALPHA IS FALLING OUT!!!"!!!

The same thing on my planet, who knows the exact reason? (starts up, idles, but doesn’t want to go)

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Defining technical characteristics of Izh Planet-5

Multiple videos of Izh Planet-5 are “live” confirmation of the popularity of the cruiser, and with proper care, its durability. A huge advantage of a motorcycle is its ability to allow any tuning transformations .

Modernization of almost any spare part is painless, and the final result makes you feel genuine pride.

The qualitative characteristics of the motorcycle confirm its necessity and indispensability in suburban conditions.