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Sasha Sanchez. 33 years old, motorcyclist. A new animal SUDDENLY appeared in my auto-moto park. It all happened by chance - before the well-known changes in legislation were adopted, we undertook to purchase a replacement club moped for the club’s motorcycle brothers who had been deprived of their licenses or were in trouble. At the end of the season there were a lot of good offers and I found a nice Honda Giorno AF24, which was planned for the role of a clubmoped. However, immediately after the purchase, my beloved wife and son ran into the garage, touched it, rode it and resolutely declared that the scooter was terribly cute and they would not give such a handsome thing to the common fund. And it will serve them for travel and riding. They squeezed it out, in short, out of lawlessness. I didn't have time to make a sound. So he settled in my garage. Administrative resource, huh.

The Honda Giorno AF24 model appeared on the market in 1992. The scooter was one of the first modern “retro” scooters, with relatively modern technical features, but with a design in the spirit of the 50s. The design is original and does not copy models from other manufacturers, but it strongly resembles the old models of Italian Vespa and Lambretta.

Which is logical: Italians are the undisputed trendsetters here, and it all started with them. Technically, the scooter is based on the Honda Tact AF24. The model is reliable and well known to everyone.

Lever front fork, drum brakes, not particularly playful engine. Everything fits into the style. But if the lever fork is really soft and comfortable, and the two-stroke engine that devours 92 gasoline pleases with low refueling costs, then the drum brakes of this model are an absolute and undeniable evil.

I've never owned a scooter with both drum brakes before. So this is a terrible horror. My Ninka engine brakes much more effectively than this archaic with both its drums at the same time. There is no front at all. When braking, the lever fork is activated and we get a downward dive with almost no deceleration. The rear one is somehow working, but that’s it, at least somehow. I adjusted the brakes only roughly, and the tires were damaged, but I’m afraid it won’t be possible to radically change the braking dynamics.

Nevertheless, despite the almost complete inoperability, the drum brakes look very appropriate and do not spoil the design. For example, the modern retro scooter SYM Allo. It looks cool and attracts attention, but personally I am terribly bothered by the modern telescopic shock absorber and disc brake. From the point of view of common sense, everything is as it should be, but what does a retro scooter and common sense have to do with it?

Design, that's its main feature. The baby looks great and attracts the attention of others. Ninka, who is also a show-stopper, attracts about as many interested glances as a polished, sparkling chrome zhorik. For example, all the car wash staff came running to wash it. Because he's funny and cool. Well, (pseudo)sportbikes are far from the people, as are their armor-clad astronaut pilots of inhuman appearance. And here it seems like just a funny dude on a funny moped. The same Easy rider, only very easy :)

In general, none of the most sporty Poltos in fashionable stickers will attract as much attention as a retro scooter in stock. The design is timeless and looks harmonious with any pilot, from a pretty young girl to a gray-haired pensioner.

I also got the deluxe version. It differs from the basic one in other body colors, other nameplates with the name of the model and the presence of some additional decorative chrome elements (comb on the front fender, horn edging, rear brake light, muffler trim). All this sparkling opulence pairs beautifully with the gloss black exterior, a true timeless classic. This stylistic decision is appropriate even on the strict chopper of a brutal “one percenter.”

The deluxe package appeared in 1998, that is, the device I got was fairly recent and in good condition. It starts up perfectly and slowly but surely puts the speedometer needle “over 60”, and also moves off very quickly. According to the previous owner, some kind of sports variator is installed there. What exactly it costs is a mystery, since I haven’t gotten into the variator yet, I’ll look later. However, a sharp start clearly indicates tuning clutch springs; it grabs at high speeds, and not from the bottom. If you unscrew the handle all the way from the seat, the front wheel is noticeably unloaded, and sitting on the back of the seat we even get some kind of wheelie. But further acceleration is rather sluggish, although smooth and confident.

I don’t really like these settings, but there is some fun at the start. The lever fork, the low saddle height and the overall weight and dimensions of the device also give it pure “fifty thousand” fun. That is, quickly grab onto the dirt road, turn 180 degrees like on a tank by simply lifting the baby by the steering wheel, dashingly push off in a turn with your foot, like on an endurike. The speeds are low, but the fun, fun and dust are through the roof. Even the gray smog from the muffler (two-stroke engine) is in place here. Not a bug, but a feature. But the lever fork, appropriate on dirt roads, behaves nervously on the asphalt in high-speed turns and probably, as they say in various Giorno tests, can break in a sharp turn. But with such brakes and a sluggish engine, driving this scooter vigorously is still strictly contraindicated. Calmly dragging along in the far right lane and gawking as everyone stares at you - this is the destiny of the Giorno pilot.

There is a kickstarter and electric starter, a horn signal and a low-range switch that are standard for this class. The light is on constantly and cannot be turned off. The headlight is powered by a generator; if you give more gas, it shines brighter. On the instrument panel there is a speedometer, a light indicating the need to add oil, a speed indicator (which lights up after reaching a speed of 40 km/h) and, shame on the creators of the Kawasaki Ninja 250r(!), a fuel indicator in the tank. All instruments are analog, with arrows and inscriptions in a funny old-fashioned font.

As for ergonomics, I have some complaints. Firstly, the turn signal switch. It came from the Tact model, is archaic and inconvenient. The modern standard turn signal switch on motorcycles turns off the working turn signal by pressing the center of the lever. That is, left-right turns on the corresponding signal, and pressing the center of any of the signals turns off. On this model, the switching algorithm is: left-stop-right.

That is, I turn on the left turn by pressing the slider to the left. I finished the maneuver and in order to turn off the turn signal, I need to get into a fixed position in the center of the slider. The slider step between positions is a few millimeters, so it’s easy to miss and turn on the right turn signal instead of turning off the left one. But the turn signal relay clicks very loudly, which helps you remember to turn them off. The second thing I don't like is the mirrors. They are round, stylish and chrome-plated, but they are difficult to see. They are located quite low relative to the steering wheel and to look at them you have to look down. On the same Dio AF-28 that I had, the mirrors are almost in front of your eyes and you can look into them without taking your eyes off the road. At the same time, they were oval in shape and they clearly showed what was happening behind them. Visibility is much worse here. At the same time, which is a shame, the mirrors are very spaced to the side and extend beyond the dimensions of the steering wheel. In traffic jams, this greatly reduces the passability, which is definitely bad for a fifty-kopeck guy, who, if he can bother anyone in the city, is only in a traffic jam.

The front shield also stands at right angles to the floor and does not have footrests. That is, a “chopper” landing with outstretched legs will not work, only “like on a stool.” On the floor there is a tunnel that is needed for no apparent reason. It’s small, but the floor is no longer level and you can’t carry a box of beer at your feet. The seat is soft and comfortable and theoretically you can sit together with an oversized passenger. He (the passenger) will have nowhere to put his legs, but the very shape of the saddle allows this to be done, albeit without any comfort. However, as for the comfort of the saddle, I may not be entirely objective - after Ninka’s plywood covered with leatherette, any saddle will seem convenient and comfortable.

Even though the main feature of this scooter is the pont factor, it is not completely impractical. Still, this is a Honda, with all that it implies. An open 3/4 helmet fits into the underseat glove compartment. It takes some effort, but it fits. It’s interesting that, unlike other fifty kopecks, there is a plastic skirt-edging along the lower edge of the saddle cushion. If you lift the saddle, then part of the body (this very skirt) will rise with it. It prevents water from getting into the glove compartment when it rains, plays the role of a guide to quickly close the saddle correctly and just looks interesting.

On the front panel there is a hook, traditional for such devices, for packages or bags.

The tubular luggage rack is located behind the saddle at an angle, is impractically chrome-plated (it can be easily scratched by a load), but you can still attach something to it with a spider net if you need it.

The scooter is very popular, there are a lot of spare parts for it and almost everything is in stock. By the way, the popularity of the model has played a bad joke on it - it is the Giorno that is ridden by a huge number of all sorts of inadequate hipsters, who create a lot of problems for other participants in the movement and are infinitely far from the motorcycle theme. I personally was once almost killed by such a fashionable fagot-looking mustache guy on a red Giorno, like a madman who rushed across the aisle of me right after the green traffic light. And on Taganka I watched as a guy in a Giorno drove into the door of the box, because he rushed to the pale green one, and the box thought that it would slip through. Well......and I already talked about the brakes. I stopped - the guy absolutely honestly didn’t understand why I stopped and why I was showing such concern for his accident. In general, it is not surprising that when I ride a Giorno, God forbid, every tenth of the two-wheelers I meet greets me. It's a shame, annoying, but understandable.

Still, no matter how hard I convinced myself, I couldn’t go in full gear. I pulled on an open helmet and gloves, but I couldn’t do more. It’s stupid and stupid, especially with such brakes, but that’s how it is. I consoled myself that I was only riding around the area, doing household chores. Well, in the end! Why do you need half a thousand if it is also fully booked? Again, the design, the main feature, just doesn’t fit in with the full kit. I’ll throw my open helmet in the garage, so that the scooter will always be ready for an immediate start, like a young pioneer. To take me to the nearest store on a warm summer evening, when you don’t feel like making a reservation at all, and driving a car in such weather is completely stupid. Well, a “school desk” for the wife and an attraction “ride with dad through empty garages at a speed of 30 km/h” for the son. And in general, this is a stupid purchase. We don't need him. But he was so funny and cute that, on charisma alone, he made his way into my garage, squeezing out adult vehicles. Probably he’s not Zhorik after all, but on the contrary, even Georgette :)

This time we had a full-fledged test, with the participation of several test pilots. The people chosen were completely different, from a first-grader to an experienced motorcyclist with many tens of thousands of kilometers under their belt. I have already expressed my opinion, and then there will be reviews from other testers.

PS Sasha SoVa - once again special thanks for organizing our family rides. Sanya, you are a true worker!

Dima, 7 years old. Second pilot. (+1 the one who sits in the back. Dima sat in front of the main pilot, operating both horns and keeping his hands on the steering wheel. Second pilot, who else?) Recorded from dictation:

Mileage : I have ridden neither less nor much on the scooter.

I liked that some things, such as skidding, are barely felt.

What I didn’t like : the fact that there is no attachment for this box on the tail... Yes, a trunk!

What I remember : a comfortable seat and riding through the autumn forest with my dad.

Where would you like to go : take a ride around Moscow (holy holy - dad's note)

What needs to be added to the Jorne : a mount for this box on the tail, a trunk. Well, and the audio system.

Conclusion : If you love luxury, then Giorno is absolutely your vehicle. :)))

Alena Pachulya, 18+. The owner of the scooter.

In the most honest way, my son and I took away a new toy from dad. Because she is never a man’s and, to be honest, not even a boy’s. She's all so feminine. On the front shield there is a hook for a handbag; you can also fit a larger bag there. The floor is wide and spacious, so heels are not a hindrance. I even want to call mirrors “mirrors” - small, like a powder compact. It’s true that they only need to touch up their makeup.

The pneumatic horn is touching, giving it some kind of retro touch. (Caring “tuning” of the spouse.) True, I’m still not very clever in using it. And if you consider that this is my first personal transport, then it evokes especially tender and reverent feelings in me. Driving it is relaxed, the controls do not distract from thoughtful contemplation of the surroundings. At any speed, you can let go of the steering wheel with one hand and wave to passersby. The main thing is not to forget to smile charmingly, and then every comrade and brother you meet will be ready to give way.

She will be my friend both for shopping and just for a ride around the area. It’s just somehow pitiful and scary to leave her in the city. She looks like a lonely homeless girl who you want to steal and save.

And in general, she is all so small and cute that men on her look somehow stooped and bulky.

Well, okay, it’s black, there’s even some chic in it. Like a little black dress.

Sasha SoVa. 35 years old, motorcyclist.

Moped fire! I'm up to 60+ without any problems. Sasha spoke about the brakes being sluggish, but I wouldn’t say that. Quite a brake for such a horse. As everyone who has ridden/rides a 50cc knows, it will go everywhere. To get to the ride we had to overcome mud, water and a terribly dense traffic jam)

You just need to tinker with the mirrors. I don't know how to set them up. They each extend 5 cm from the edge of the handle beyond the dimensions. I drove into a traffic jam and immediately hit the body of the gazelle. I folded them, and that’s where the plug ended.

Yes, and visibility in them is quite decent.

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This is how the test came out, this is the scooter. Everything new is well forgotten old. The cycle of time, that's it...

Advantages of Honda Giorno

Based on owner reviews of the Honda Giorno, you can compile a whole list of advantages that distinguish this scooter from other equipment:

  1. Excellent appearance, which attracts the attention not only of motorcycle connoisseurs, but also of ordinary people.
  2. The low price of the model makes it accessible to almost everyone - for a used scooter, owners will charge you from 35 to 50 thousand rubles, which can be compared with the cost of Chinese budget mopeds and scooters.
  3. A reliable, although not very powerful, engine that will not let you down even in the cold season.
  4. The prices for spare parts for this scooter are quite reasonable, so operation and repairs will not hit the owners hard.
  5. The model opens the way to various improvements.
  6. Impressive fuel tank capacity.
  7. A spacious trunk located under the seat will significantly reduce the number of things you will carry in a travel bag or backpack.
  8. Low fuel consumption will help to significantly save the money you allocate for gasoline, which has become more expensive lately.

Disadvantages of a scooter

The almost perfect scooter from Honda also has weaknesses. These include the radiator’s susceptibility to rapid contamination, the inaccessibility of spare parts, as well as modifications aimed at improving performance, which can only be handled by a person well versed in repairing scooters and motorcycles. In addition, it is worth noting that the more mileage a Honda Giorno scooter has, the more significant modifications the owner will need.

In conclusion, it is worth saying that it is better to buy a Honda Giorno scooter from foreign sellers, since even after a short run in Russia, the equipment will require large investments in repairs. In general, the model makes a positive impression - this is evidenced by the demand for it and its enormous popularity. If you are looking for a compact vehicle for getting around the city, then the Honda Giorno is what you need!

Test drive and reviews

The scooter's spacious luggage compartment makes it easy to transport cargo over long distances, eliminating the need for backpacks.

Honda Giorno is offered in a wide range of colors: the buyer can choose the color of the scooter to suit his taste. The color design can be either one-color or two-color.

The low center of gravity ensures the stability of the retro scooter while driving and is due to the way the engine is mounted to the frame. Despite excellent and confident handling, the motorcycle is suitable for the warm season and loses stability on a sandy track: low cross-country ability is sacrificed in favor of the compactness of the Honda Giorno, which is more relevant for urban areas.

The scooter has been produced for 12 years, during which time it has collected numerous positive reviews from motorcyclists, noting not only its dynamism, but also its unique design, made in retro style and emphasizing the individuality and uniqueness of the driver. The engine runs softly and smoothly, almost silently, without extraneous sounds or squeaks.

The Japanese company Honda created a retro scooter for a wide target audience: the model is chosen by both young people who want to stand out in the city traffic, and mature motorcyclists who are nostalgic for bygone times. In addition, the scooter is offered at an affordable price: on the Russian secondary market you can purchase a Honda Giorno for 35-45 thousand rubles, depending on the general condition and mileage.

Technical specifications of the Honda Giorno scooter

It is worth giving as an example some characteristics of the Honda Giorno, and also paying attention to the advantages of its performance:

Dimensions (length; width; height)168.5; 63; 100.5 cm
Weight84 kg
Maximum speed60 km/h
Fuel tank volume5 l; 1.3 l
Load capacity150 kg
Engine4-stroke 1-cylinder CVT liquid-cooled
Fuel consumption1.6 l
Engine capacity49.9 cu. cm
StartElectric starter
Engine power4.8 l. With. at 8000 rpm
Brake systemDrum
Suspensions (front; rear)Lever; pendulum

The small dimensions and weight of the Honda Giorno Crea provided the scooter with excellent mobility and cross-country ability not only on the highway, but also in urban congestion. A reliable suspension, a lightweight aluminum frame, and a drum brake system gave even novice drivers confidence during travel, keeping them generally safe. A fuel tank with a capacity of 5 liters, as well as very low fuel consumption per 100 km, saved motorcyclists from frequent refueling.

Now drivers will not have to look for opportunities to take a supply of gasoline with them. The Honda Giorno 4-stroke CVT engine, characterized by increased reliability and decent power for its class, will serve you faithfully for many years.

Judging by the reviews of the Honda Giorno Crea scooter, we can say that this technology will be an excellent solution to problems with moving around the city, as well as an addition to your lifestyle.

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