Author Anton Akhremenko
asked a question in the section
Service, Maintenance, Tuning
How and what kind of oil should be diluted with gasoline for motorcycles Izh Jupiter (planet) 4-5? Tired of changing piston ones and got the best answer
Answer from @[guru] Our domestic M8V motor oil is very suitable for two-stroke engines of the IZH Planet, IZH Jupiter, and Tula motorcycles. The proportion for a mixture with 1 liter of gasoline is equal to 25 grams per liter of gasoline for IZH Jupiter and Planet motorcycles. For a Tula motorcycle you need a little more oil - 30 grams per liter of gasoline. In principle, almost any cheap domestic motor oil is suitable for mixing with gasoline. The main thing is that the motor oil is not synthetic or semi-synthetic. In my history of riding motorcycles, I have not found a better oil for mixing with gasoline than M8B. M8B engine oil is dark blue in color and very thick. The main rule when mixing gasoline with oil is: - it is better to overfill than underfill! If you do not add oil to gasoline, this can have a very detrimental effect on your piston. As a result, the engine will overheat more and jamming may occur, or as our people say: catch a wedge! When pouring engine oil into gasoline, there is one small, but still a problem - the acceleration dynamics of the motorcycle drops. In other words, when engine oil is overfilled, your motorcycle will not gain speed as quickly, and the engine will smoke very much. A lot of bluish smoke will come out of the muffler. To prevent all this from happening, carefully observe the proportions of oil when pouring it into gasoline. Read further: carburetor K-68I
Answer from Valentin Koryabkin
[newbie] I fill it with vegetable)
Reply from Denis
[newbie] Many people are interested in exactly how many grams or milliliters are per 1 liter of gasoline! and you should not judge by the smoke - from the exhaust pipe - since the smoke may be due to leaky seals between the crankcase and the transmission, you need to dilute 30-50 milliliters, per 1 liter, how much is it in grams - you can measure it on the scales, it’s 20- 40 approximately, try it yourself) it’s not that difficult))
Answer from Vladimir Levin
[newbie] Only mineral. Compared to synthetics and semi-synthetics, there are a minimum of additives insoluble in gasoline. Less carbon deposits on spark plugs, heads and rings. Before pouring the mixture into the tank, dilute it in a transparent bottle and let it settle. If there is no sediment, pour in safely.
Answer from Alexander Kulikov
[active] The piston can quickly wear out due to poorly purified air; check and maintain the air filter and the pipes between it and the carburetor.
Reply from -=Grizli=-
[newbie] Of the domestic oils, the best is MS-20 in proportions of 1:20 (500 ml of oil per 10 liters of gasoline) during break-in... and 1:25 (400 ml per 10 liters of gasoline) for everyday driving. You can also take 2T synthetics - there will be no carbon deposits on the spark plug and in the crank chamber (crank chamber), but the motorcycle will be littered with oil everywhere, since it, due to its physical properties, does not burn...
Answer from Alek Efremov
[newbie] I use Lukoil for 2 tons per 1 liter of gasoline, 40 milliliters of oil, the motor does not smoke. I recommend this oil to everyone. It's much better than Autol. costs 600 rubles for 5 liters approximately
Answer from Artyom Epifanov
[newbie] Autol (m-8v) dilute with this
Reply from Comrade Mauser
[guru] just don’t save it... proportion 1:16 - 1:20
Answer from Yoehmet
[guru] Autol 1 to 20.
What kind of oil should I pour into the gearbox on Izh Jupiter 5?
Ilya (Jayantika) I filled the transmission and so far everything is fine...
Sergey (Azaria) the mineral transmission is quite normal.
Alexey (Sandra) diesel is possible
Ilya (Jayantika) Alexey, it’s normal to pour diesel into the tank, otherwise it’s the first time I’ve heard of that!
Sergey (Azaria) on Jupiter the gearbox is rough. Diesel oil softens the shifting a little.
Ilya (Jayantika) Sergey, do you know that the box, Jupiter, and the planet are the same! The only thing about Jupiter is that the switching sector works differently...
Sergey (Azaria) Ilya, I know. Only on the planet it is falling apart faster.
Ilya (Jayantika) NOTHING LIKE THIS! My dad has 24,000 miles on his motorcycle on the 3rd circuit, the engine was halved twice (both times replacing oil seals and KV bearings)… there were no problems with the gearbox….
Sergey (Azaria) 24 thousand is not a mileage. And with the box it means you were lucky.
Ilya (Jayantika) Sergey, how are you reading? 24 thousand on the 3rd circle of the speedometer!
Evgeny (Cordula) Ilya, how much oil do you need in the box?
Ilya (Jayantika) liter...on all models...
Sergey (Azaria) Ilya, the speedometer on our vehicles is usually numbered up to 100 thousand.
Ilya (Jayantika) Sergey, my father himself told me that this is already the 3rd round...
Sergey (Azaria) Ilya, then this “planet” is eternal!)
Zhenya (Bertilde) how to soften gear shifting on Jupiter 5, they shift quite hard and loud.
Sergey (Azaria) Guys, maybe an industrial I-20?
Nikolay (Cynfor) Surely the book indicates the usual M8V transmission, thick for clutch in an oil bath.
Arkadiy (Webster) I use diesel, both in gasoline and in a box, or better yet17
Tags: What kind of oil to pour into the Izh Jupiter 5 engine
Izh Jupiter 5 where does the engine oil go? | Topic author: Veronica
Nina Stout correctly wrote that to lubricate the engine, oil is mixed with gasoline in a ratio of 1:20.
Separately, oil is poured into Vadim’s gearbox. I’ll just clarify a little: in Izh Jupiter 5, oil is poured not from the right side but from the left, not from above but from the side Ilya, and there is no control screw there, there is a dipstick on the mentioned cap. More oil is poured into the flywheel cavity. For filling into the flywheel cavity, there is a screw plug with a slot for a screwdriver on the left half of the engine, near the engine mounting point. You need to put the motorcycle on a flat surface, unscrew this plug and pour Leonid oil into the hole so that the oil is flush with the edge of the Oksana hole. Konstantin Oil must be mixed into gasoline
Ekaterina Oil is poured into the box from the top right side, on the side on the same side there is a control screw. Oil is not poured into the engine, but mixed with gasoline in a ratio of 1:20. Read the instructions.
Vladislav If you want to pour it into the engine, then try through the muffler
Maria On the left Izh has a rubber piece on the engine and it says Izh you unscrew it and it fills in there
>> Periodic maintenance. Gearbox - oil change
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Gearbox - oil change
The gearbox oil should be replaced after the first 500 km, and then every 10,000 thousand km.
It is better to change the oil immediately after a trip, while it is hot.
1. Place the motorcycle on the center stand.
2. We place a wide container with a volume of 1.5 - 2 liters under the engine crankcase.
3. Using a 22 mm wrench, unscrew the drain plug located at the bottom of the crankcase and drain the oil.
When the bulk of the oil has flowed out, tilt the motorcycle slightly to the right side so that the oil completely flows out of the engine transmission compartment.
4. Screw in the drain plug
5. Using a slotted screwdriver, loosen the rear screw securing the hatch-emblem on the left crankcase cover, and unscrew the front screw completely.
6. Turn the hatch on the rear screw, opening the window in the crankcase cover. Fill the crankcase with a liter of engine oil.
For convenience, you can tilt or lay the motorcycle on the right side.
7. Close the hatch and tighten the screws that secure it. Wipe off any oil stains from the crankcase surface.
Attention!
The use of gear oil for a motorcycle gearbox is undesirable. Due to the higher viscosity of transmission oil, especially in cold weather and after a long stay, it is possible for the clutch discs to “stick together” with the corresponding consequences (the clutch does not disengage at all or “drives”).
If the oil drained from the gearbox is heavily contaminated, has a dark color and metal particles are clearly visible in it, it is recommended to rinse the gearbox before adding fresh oil. To do this, pour about 0.5 liters of a mixture of any clean motor or transmission oil into the crankcase in half with kerosene, white spirit or diesel fuel. Having hung the rear wheel, we start the engine and, changing gears, “twist” the gearbox for 2-3 minutes, washing it. After this, quickly drain the flushing mixture and pour fresh oil into the gearbox.
What kind of oil and what kind of gasoline to pour into an IZh motorcycle
Can't decide which IZH motorcycle is better - Dnepr or Ural? On various thematic forums you can find many reviews about motorcycles. Some are inclined to believe that the best motorcycle is the Dnepr 11, others consider the Izh Planet 5, and some say the Ural. Russian motorcycles have always been in great demand due to their availability and low operating costs. Such motorcycles require very careful and attentive maintenance.
Do you want to know what the weight of an Izh Planet or Jupiter motorcycle is without a sidecar? And everywhere there is information only about weight with a stroller? The weight of such a motorcycle will be more than 150-160 kg without taking into account fuel and oil, which will still add up to 15-20 kg. It all depends on the chosen model and year of manufacture. We recommend registering for thematic forums, where there are a huge number of interesting topics for discussion. You can learn a lot of useful tips about the repair and operation of Soviet motorcycles, their strengths and weaknesses.
Many motorcycle owners ask the same question - what kind of oil and what kind of gasoline to fill their motorcycle with? M8B engine oil, which has excellent characteristics, is ideal for domestic motorcycles. The recommended proportion for a mixture of oil and gasoline is approximately 1:50. If we consider this in practice, then it turns out that for every liter of AI-92 gasoline, about 25 grams of motor oil are added. For some models, such as the Urals, this proportion should be increased to 30 grams per liter of fuel. It is recommended to dilute some motor oils from gasoline in a ratio of approximately 1:25.
All necessary spare parts for the IZH motorcycle can be found in specialized stores (for example https://motaki.ru/index.php?route=product/category&path=125_80) or on the market. They are affordable and not that hard to find. If you need high-quality oil, find out about it on the market, about specialists who have been selling spare parts and fuels and lubricants for many years. And remember that the IZH clutch operates in an oil bath. MC-20 is ideal, but as for automobile motor oil, it is better not to fill it in, as problems will arise with adjusting the clutch.
For motorcycles Dnepr, Ural, Planet, Jupiter and so on, you can use any domestically produced motor oil, even the cheapest. For mixtures with gasoline, it is not recommended to use synthetic or semi-synthetic oil. It is better to give preference to the so-called “mineral water”. Find out from the manager which oil to fill in the shock absorbers of an IZH motorcycle (if the shock absorber itself flies, look for it at https://motaki.ru/index.php?route=product/product&path=125_80&product_id=6918), and which one to add to the gearbox to they lasted longer. Choose only high-quality motor oil!
How I found a good motorcycle oil
During my life I have ridden different motorcycles, while I rode Minsk, Voskhod, IZH-Planet, I didn’t even think about oil, the engines worked fine. But when I bought the IZH-PS, after the first good race my piston jammed, I thought about it, there were only problems with the IZH-PS, as long as I don’t give the gas it goes all the way, but as soon as I give it the gas the piston or crankshaft jams. Disappointed in IZH-PS.
In my youth, I was involved in motocross for two years, we had cross-country ChZs, I remember there were no major problems with the piston ones, although they kicked them in the ass, oh so good, I also remember that the smell of smoke from the exhaust was very different from the usual smoke of a motorcycle. But the fool didn’t ask the coach what kind of oil he poured into the gasoline, but I know for sure that in addition to oil, he added castor oil, but since I don’t know exactly the composition of gasoline and oil for a motocross motorcycle, I won’t lie and invent anything.
I bought a cross-country ChZ-250, at first I poured two-stroke oil into the gasoline, but as soon as I gave it in, I felt that the engine was starting to drag (it might jam), I had to let off the gas and switch to moderate engine speeds.
Chance helped, I decided to go fishing on the cross-country ChZ-250, you can drive it off-road, shortening the distance, but I ran out of two-stroke oil, the question arose of what oil to dilute the gasoline with. There was only four-stroke semi-synthetic LUKOIL oil, I decided to dilute the gasoline with this oil, I think I won’t drive it, I’ll get there slowly and won’t harm the engine. But what a surprise I was when the motorcycle engine started running much softer, pulled faster, although I diluted the gasoline with four-stroke semi-synthetic oil, applied gas, beautifully, the engine was flogging and there were no signs of the piston sticking.
By the time I got to the pond, I was squeezing this cross-country ChZ-250 to the maximum, I got great pleasure from the ride, since then I have been diluting gasoline in my motorcycle and chainsaw only with four-stroke semi-synthetic oil, very pleased.
It turns out that four-stroke semi-synthetic oil is the best oil for a two-stroke engine and is cheaper than special two-stroke oil.
If you don’t believe me, check for yourself which is the best oil.
Izh motorcycle engine oil - how often to change
The engine oil in IZH motorcycle engines must be changed every 5 thousand km or earlier, depending on how quickly the lubricant loses its useful properties. Signs of deteriorating fluid quality are insufficient oil level, cloudiness, wear debris in the form of sediment, and a burning smell. The shelf life of the lubricant can be negatively affected by intense driving with sharp maneuvers, sudden starts and braking, frequent off-road travel and towing heavy trailers. All this puts a significant load on the engine, which overheats, and spoiled oil is not able to effectively lubricate and cool the internal combustion engine parts.
Izh motorcycle engine - how much oil to fill
Izh 2.673 Cornet
Izh Cornet is a mini-motorcycle with a ground clearance of 195 mm. Characteristic features of this model are a high steering wheel, disc brakes and chrome parts. The lining is plastic, the footrests are moved forward. Thanks to its compact dimensions, the motorcycle is maneuverable and economical. It is equipped with a two-stroke 2-cylinder engine with a carburetor power supply system and air cooling. The lubrication system is combined (oil mixed with fuel). The estimated speed of the Izh Cornet motorcycle does not exceed 50 km/h.
Year of manufacture: 2001
Two-stroke 2-cylinder, carburetor, 50 cc. cm, 2.21 l. pp., oil volume – 20:1, approval: API-TC
Izh 6.113-020-05 Junker
Izh Junker is a recreational motorcycle with a ground clearance of 175 mm. It is made in the American style, and its distinctive features (compared to its predecessors) are a high steering wheel and a streamlined teardrop-shaped tank. The instrument panel is mounted on the tank.
The developers managed to ensure the comfort of passengers by installing a two-level saddle, which can accommodate just two. In addition, the Junker is equipped with a front disc brake, and a “drum” is installed at the rear.
An updated intake and exhaust system is installed, which is relatively quiet and provides higher thrust at low speeds than previous models. The total production volume of the Izh Junker motorcycle was 6,000 copies, including modifications for special services.
Years of production – 2000-2005
Two-stroke 2-barrel, carburetor, 347 cc. cm, power – 24 l. pp., oil volume – 20:1, approval – API-TC
Izh Planet 7
Izh Planet 7 is a middle-class motorcycle, the successor to the successful Planet 5 model. Owners positively evaluate Planet 7, which has a rather interesting original design, a powerful and economical engine and has high maintainability.
However, there are also disadvantages: low reliability of rear wheel bearings, insufficiently efficient air cooling (especially in hot weather), poor quality assembly and weak traction in versions with a trailer. The Izh Planet 7.107 modification periodically experiences strong engine vibrations.
Next, we note the main improvements compared to its predecessor (Planet-5): a lightweight 4-stroke engine of smaller volume but similar power, an electric starter for starting, a narrower gas tank, new instrument panel and optics with turn signals, electronic non-contact ignition, improved clutch, separate lubrication and five-speed gearbox. The improvements made had a positive effect on the dynamic qualities.
Years of production – 1987-2008
4-stroke, 2-cylinder, 250cc cm, 20 l. pp., oil volume – 2 liters, tolerance and viscosity: API-SG, SH, SJ; SAE 10W-40
Planet-5 gearbox: how much oil, diagram
Quite often, malfunctions and breakdowns occur on Izh Planet-5 motorcycles.
This is a consequence of low-quality components and low requirements for the manufacture of components. And quite often it is the gearbox that suffers. But there is also an advantage here: the ability to carry out repairs yourself due to a fairly simple design. And with this, of course, the Izh Planet-5 gearbox diagram, which will be discussed further, will help. Self-diagnosis and repair will reduce the time and money that could be spent when contacting professional technicians.
