Hi all.
Let's continue the topic of tech. maintenance of a 50cc scooter.
Last time we looked at the maintenance of the air filter, throttle cable and brakes. But this is not enough for the flawless operation of your motorcycle. An important point is the timely change of oil on the scooter.
Let's look in detail at when and how to carry out such work on 2t and 4t engines.
Changing the engine oil
In 2-stroke technology, the oil does not change, but is regularly poured into a separate tank and supplied by an oil pump to the carburetor, where it is mixed with the air-gasoline mixture and supplied to the engine.
The mixture lubricates the rotating and rubbing parts of the engine, burns and exits with exhaust gases into the exhaust pipe.
Oil tanks on scooters have different volumes - from 0.6 l to 1.3 l.
One liter of oil is enough for about 1000 km.
If you ride a motorcycle every day, then five liters of oil will be enough for a 2-stroke engine for the summer season.
The Oil lamp on the instrument panel indicates that the oil has dropped to the reserve level.
If the lamp lights up, it means that there is little oil left in the tank.
You should not take risks and drive with the Oil light on, because as soon as the oil runs out completely, the engine will overheat and seize.
We'll have to capitalize on it. And this, you understand, is time-consuming and expensive repairs.
On 4-stroke 50 cc motorcycles, the oil is changed every 2 - 3 thousand km. During this mileage, fuel combustion substances accumulate in the oil and, as a result, it becomes dirty and thick, which changes its structure and properties.
If you drive together, transport cargo, that is, when the engine often works under heavy loads, then change the oil more often, after 1 - 1.5 thousand km.
Let's get down to business.
Start the scooter for 5 - 10 minutes. until the increased speed drops.
Place the motorcycle on the stand and turn off the engine.
Loosen the drain bolt.
Place a liter jar to drain the waste and unscrew the bolt completely.
Then unscrew the oil dipstick.
In 5 minutes, all the oil will flow out of the engine.
On a Honda Dio 56, there is a filter mesh under the oil drain cover. Wipe it well with a dry cloth and blow it or rinse it in gasoline.
On a Honda Dio 68, the oil filter mesh is located near the variator. The mesh also needs to be removed and washed.
Then reassemble everything in reverse order.
For the summer season, buy an oil with a high viscosity that is universal for any temperature, for example, 10w40.
Fill the engine with oil through the dipstick. Its quantity depends on the motorcycle model and is indicated on the oil dipstick.
The level should be up to the top mark of the dipstick.
As you can see, the procedure is not complicated, but it requires care and will take 20–30 minutes. It's always difficult to start the first time, but then it will be business as usual for you.
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I would like to share how I changed the oil , what tool is needed - a 3/8 square head, a ratchet or a wrench, a pipe to make it easier to break the bolt, it is too tight, I used a bottle with a check valve and an outlet tube from which oil comes out under pressure to fill the oil. , but I pumped it up using a compressor, I recommend it without any problems at all and quickly the oil flows into the gearbox , a container for collecting oil, I took a nylon bowl, 2 liters of oil, it will take about 1.5 liters, new washers. Beginning of the procedure - We clear the dirt from the place where we will drain it, then unscrew the top bolt on the left, place the container, drain the oil, then on the right in the lower corner we see also under the square, unscrew it, the main oil will come from it, be prepared, there will be a magnet on the bolt, you will see how many chips it has collected, then VD- 40 sprayed, cleaned, inserted a new washer, all the oil no longer flows, tighten the bottom bolt, fill the oil into a liter bottle, connect the compressor, insert the tube into the upper hole, and the oil goes under pressure into the gearbox , do the operation again, only fill about 0.5 liters. and pump it in again, we saw that oil was flowing through the top, we tighten everything, the replacement is completed.
Honda Dio gearbox. Wash, change oil in 5 minutes
Changing the oil in the gearbox
From our experience, we recommend using 75W90 oil; replacement should be done after 5 - 6 thousand km.
On all Suzuki and Yamaha models there is a drain bolt on the gearbox.
Place a wide bowl under it.
Unscrew two bolts: filler and drain.
Drain the waste - it will be 90 - 120 ml.
Tighten the drain bolt.
Place a tube on the syringe and pump oil into the gearbox to the level of the plug.
Tighten the filler bolt.
Therefore, drain the waste through the filler hole, tilting the scooter to one side.
To drain the waste, take a flat container or place an open plastic bag with a rag inside.
Then place the scooter on the stand and use a syringe with a tube attached to fill in the oil until it flows out.
Install the filler bolt and tighten slightly.
Working with the gearbox turned out to be even easier than working with the engine. Therefore, do not be afraid, try and service your motorcycle on time, at the required mileage, in order to ride longer without repairing the gearbox.
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Recommendations for proper use of scooters
Scooters are fueled with AI-92 gasoline . It is not allowed to fill scooters with AI-98 gasoline, this will lead to overheating and burnout of the piston. As a last resort, you can fill it with AI-95 gasoline.
We also advise you not to refuel your scooter at unknown gas stations. This can result in low-quality gasoline and dirt entering the scooter’s fuel system, and premature clogging of the fuel filter and the entire fuel system.
The engine of a 2-stroke or 4-stroke scooter is very picky about the quality of oil. To the point that using low-quality oil can cause fatal damage to the engine in 1 day.
Motor oils that have proven themselves to be the best:
For 2-stroke engines:
Motul Scooter Expert 2T; Castrol Act Evo Xtra 2T; Liqui Moly scooter 2T.
Motul Scooter Expert 4T; Liqui Moly scooter 4T.
In scooters with 2-stroke engines, oil is poured into a separate oil tank. During operation, in the engine, oil is mixed with gasoline automatically and is gradually consumed. One liter of oil for 2-stroke engines is usually enough for 600 - 800 km. for 50 cc engines, and for 500 - 600 km. for 90 - 125 cc engines, depending on driving style (the higher the speed, the higher the oil and gasoline consumption).
When the oil level in the oil tank drops to approximately 150 g. The warning light on the dashboard starts blinking (especially on rough roads). It is usually indicated by the inscription OIL or an oil can icon. If the oil level light in the oil tank is constantly on, you should immediately turn off the engine and fill the oil tank with oil.
Operating the scooter with the oil level light constantly on will lead to serious engine damage.
For standard scooters, it makes sense to fill only semi-synthetic oil. Cheap mineral oil, commonly used for lawn mowers, chainsaws and other garden equipment, should not be used at all. And it makes sense to use synthetic oil only on highly accelerated sports engines.
In 4-stroke scooter engines, oil is not consumed, but is located in the crankcase, and must be replaced (as in a car) after 3000 - 5000 km. mileage
The oil in the gearbox is changed once every one or two seasons. It is best to fill only synthetic oil for scooter transmissions. For example, Motul Gear Competition W75/140. For replacement you need about 100 ml. oil (more precisely, it is written on the gearbox cover of your scooter). You must fill in the exact volume indicated, using a syringe with a measuring scale.
air filter is usually a simple foam element. This is a very important part, which, if not promptly cleaned or replaced, usually quickly leads to serious engine damage. The frequency of cleaning or replacing the engine air filter depends on operating conditions. If you often drive on dusty roads (when dust swirls and flies behind you), then cleaning is required up to 1 time per week. If you drive mainly in the city on asphalt, then once every 2 - 3 months.
The scooter has a peculiar handling , which takes some time to get used to. Therefore, we advise you not to let unverified, inexperienced drivers and strangers “ride” the scooter. According to statistics, 90% of such cases end in a fall with injuries, or the scooter is broken or it can simply be stolen. You can only give a scooter a ride to those people whose driving skills you have no doubt about. If a person has ridden a motorcycle, this does not mean that he knows how to ride a scooter.
The scooter is quite simple in design, but, nevertheless, its repair requires special skills. Therefore, if you need to repair a scooter, it is better to contact a specialized service center or a trusted private technician.
Our company also deals with warranty and post-warranty repairs and maintenance of scooters.
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“The woman didn’t have a hoot, but the woman bought a pig,” but on the other hand, if a person likes to “tighten nuts” (someone generally collects stamps or just drinks), then it’s quite a normal activity in his free time from his main job. ps I had candles with such red soot when we had 95 at gas stations using additives. 5-10 t.km. and a furry animal came to visit the platinum candles, the candles cost $60 for a set (four pieces) and/or $180 for two coils if you flapping your ears. So until 2014 (until I bought a Nissan) I drove 92. The spark plugs on the Nyuska cost like a bucket and I decided to try filling in 95, it turned out that now they don’t burn. I refuel both in Belarus and in the Russian Federation only with Lukoil.
here there are only 92, I only fill up at good gas stations, there will be a recording ahead of what happened to the new spark plug after 400 km... you'll see))))
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Comments 3
“The woman didn’t have a hoot, but the woman bought a pig,” but on the other hand, if a person likes to “tighten nuts” (someone generally collects stamps or just drinks), then it’s quite a normal activity in his free time from his main job. ps I had candles with such red soot when we had 95 at gas stations using additives. 5-10 t.km. and a furry animal came to visit the platinum candles, the candles cost $60 for a set (four pieces) and/or $180 for two coils if you flapping your ears. So until 2014 (until I bought a Nissan) I drove 92. The spark plugs on the Nyuska cost like a bucket and I decided to try filling in 95, it turned out that now they don’t burn. I refuel both in Belarus and in the Russian Federation only with Lukoil.
here there are only 92, I only fill up at good gas stations, there will be a recording ahead of what happened to the new spark plug after 400 km... you'll see))))
Honda AF-56 maintenance, please tell me.
#1 Alexsey
I purchased this moped last fall. Like 2004 release. The speedometer shows 5000 km, probably on the second circle, the front fork is completely destroyed and needs to be replaced. For those who don't know, this is a 4T water-cooled scooter. Actually these are the main questions:
1) What kind of oil should I pour into the engine? In the store, the seller said that before selling it he had filled it with some Energy 10W40, that is, semi-synthetic, but he already found out that it was not very good. They offer to pour Hado, synthetics for 80 UAH per liter. Who knows, tell me what kind of oil is best to fill here so that it is of good quality.
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#2 Alexsey
Actually these are the main questions:
2) Which front fork is better? They offer the same one as before, a spring Honda, Taiwan. You can also go to China, but they say it’s worse. Is it possible to install a Honda or other good hydraulic fork here?? The mechanic says that all hydraulic forks for Hondas have disc brakes (I have drum brakes). Yes, you can also put a repair kit on this fork, but as I already found out, it will last for about a season and is not the best option. Tell me what to do?
3) The scooter travels for a maximum of 50 km, but it’s the same whether it’s going up or down the mountain, that is, there is some crap in the engine, you can feel it, the traction is good. Is it worth playing with rollers to increase the speed? They say if you put the rollers at a high max. speed then the traction will be lost. And the fact that right now I have Japanese videos, factory ones, but they are sold in worse quality. How much will I receive in max. speed if I set it to max. speed rollers?? And what are they anyway, in terms of speed/traction??
What kind of oil to fill in Honda Dio
On the instrument panel (Fig. 1) there are:
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In addition, the panel may contain a low and high beam indicator.
The instrument panel has a backlight, which is turned on, depending on the model, when the engine is running with a switch in three positions: “off”, “backlight”, “light”, or simply when the engine is on (there is no switch).
The speedometer is connected via a cable to the front wheel.
The oil indicator (5) lights up when the engine oil runs out.
Control knobs and buttons (Fig. 2) include:
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The left handle operates the brake of the rear wheel, and the right handle brakes the front wheel. In addition, the starter button is only activated when the left or right brake handle is pressed with the ignition key in the l ON ╗ position.
The low-high beam switch controls the headlight, which turns on, depending on the model, or simply after starting the engine, if there is no three-position light switch (according to traffic regulations, headlights must be turned on even in daytime), or by turning the three-position light switch to the extreme left position when running engine. When the high beam is on, the high beam indicator on the instrument panel turns on.
The turn signal switch has three positions: left turn, right turn and neutral position. To go from on to neutral, just press a button.
The accelerator handle, through a cable, simultaneously controls the carburetor air damper and the oil supply lever in the oil pump, coordinating the oil supply in accordance with fuel consumption in the required proportion.
Egnition lock.
The ignition switch has 3 positions:
l OFF ╗ – “turned off”, l ON ╗ – “turned on” l LOCK ╗ – “closed”.
In the l ON ╗ position, all electrical equipment begins to work and, in addition, the key is locked in the ignition switch to prevent it from accidentally falling out. In position l OFF ╗ the electrical equipment is turned off and the engine is turned off. In the LOCK ╗ position, a mechanical anti-theft device is latched, blocking the steering wheel rotation. In the l OFF ╗ and l LOCK ╗ positions, the key is removed from the ignition switch.
Starting the engine and starting to move.
There are two ways to start the engine: using a starter and using kick starting.
In the first case, you need to turn the ignition key to position LO N ╗, press one of the brake levers, preferably the left one) and press the starter button.
In the second case, put the mokick on the step, turn the ignition key to position l ON ╗, and start the engine using kick-start (Fig. 3).
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When starting the engine, it is necessary to take into account that the torque from the engine to the rear wheel is transmitted through the variator and automatic clutch, which is activated at high speeds. And, if for some reason the initial engine speed when starting it is high, there is a danger of spontaneous movement of the engine
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This is why it is necessary to place the mokick on a stand during the second launch method. And in the first case, the starter button is locked with the brake handle. rice. 4
To remove the mokick from the footrest, it is necessary, while supporting the left brake handle, to push the mokick slightly forward (Fig. 4). |
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To start moving, you need to put on a helmet, sit on the motorcycle (Fig. 5) and start moving, gradually increasing the engine speed with the accelerator handle. |
Technical operation.
During operation, the following points must be taken into account:
The durability of the piston group depends on the quality of the air filter, therefore, unscrew the screws (Fig. 6), remove the foam filter (Fig. 7), if necessary, wash it in gasoline and put it in place.
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In this case, check especially carefully whether there are any tears in the filter itself and how tightly the filter fits in its seat. The operation of the piston group, as well as the engine bearings, depends on the supply of oil mixed with fuel in the carburetor. If the oil indicator lights up on the instrument panel, it indicates that it is necessary to add oil to a special tank. In addition, it is necessary to control the condition of the lever in the oil pump (its location is such that there is a high probability of contamination with road dust mixed with oil vapor, which leads to sticking of the lever in the maximum oil supply mode, and this leads to an over-enrichment of the fuel mixture with oil, leading to poor combustion , smoke and other negative consequences.
The presence of oil in the oil tank does not mean that everything is in order with the oil supply. If for some reason an air or dirt plug has formed in the oil supply hoses, then the piston group can be cleaned in a matter of minutes. This danger arises especially when the mokika is idle for a long time.
To control and replace the transmission oil, the gearbox has a drain plug (Fig. and a filler plug (Fig. 9). Oil is filled to the level of the filler plug.
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It is also necessary to monitor the air hose connecting the gearbox housing to the air filter housing. If for some reason the hose has jumped out of the air filter housing, then there is a danger of dust or water getting into the crankcase.
Brake system.
The rear drum brakes are activated using the left brake lever and are adjusted with a special nut for the profile (Fig. 10).
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By the position of this nut you can judge the degree of wear of the brake pad. In addition, the rear brake is locked for convenience. To do this, you need to press the left brake and lock it with the lever (Fig. 11)
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Front brakes can be drum or disc type (Fig. 12). In the second case, force is transmitted from the right brake lever by brake fluid through the brake hose. The brake fluid is monitored through a special window, topped up if necessary by unscrewing the top cap, and the brake system is bled in the same way as bleeding the brake system of a car. |
Honda Dio Review by Alan
I've been wanting to write my Honda Dio review for a long time, but I didn't have time to take good photos. Even now I have nothing more than the thought of writing a review and then getting a few clicks. To start, I thought about why I hadn't seen too many reviews of automatic scooters on BikeAdvice and realized it could be due to two reasons.
It could be that they are scooters and therefore reviews can't be posted on a bike site. Another could be that scooter riders aren't passionate enough to write reviews of their cars. Whatever the reason, I thought about taking the plunge and writing a review and leaving the rest for Deepak to decide if he should publish it.
There has always been at least 1 gearless scooter in our house since 1986. After the first two kinetic Hondas, we bought the Activa when it was launched in 2000. It was a completely different experience than KiHo. After a few years it was time for me to work in Bangalore, I moved the Activa here and used it for a few months before I started having problems and decided to change it.
At that time, although Activa was still top of the list, I decided to go for Dio as I was tired of Jane's simple views. I bought my first Dio in October 2008 when Honda made cosmetic changes to the Dio which included all black wheels and I think introduced a light pink color. Please don't jump to conclusions, I had a luxury blue "motor scooter".
Unfortunately, my scooter was stolen from my house in March 2009. Since I couldn't live without a car in a city like Bangalore, I immediately filed a police complaint and booked my second Honda Dio (blue color again). It was a painful 3 months after the police and the insurance company got a claim on my money. But it finally happened.
So far, the story has been about how I came to own the Dio I currently have. It's been 2.5 years since I got this scooter and here I will write about the pros and cons of owning a gearless scooter in a city like Bangalore.
pros
- In a city with traffic jams, riding a gearless scooter is the easiest way to get to work. You don't have to worry about changing gears in slow moving traffic.
- The amount of luggage you can load on the Dio (and other similar scooters) is quite comparable to the storage available in the trunk (or trunk capacity) of hatchbacks. This cannot be done on any motorcycle. My wife and I's trips to Star Bazaar amaze us when we return home with so many huge bags of groceries.
- In the looks department, I find Dio to be the best looking among all other similar products offered in the market. I disagree with the article “5 Most Beautiful Scooters in India” published in June this year, in which Dio was ranked 5th. The green and purple colors of parrots available nowadays (though not to everyone's taste) are unique and a big hit in Goa.
- I have a front glove box installed so I can always keep my raincoat handy. The glove box is optional.
Minuses
- The Dio having a fiber body will be a disadvantage for people who want a scooter with an all-metal body. But it helps to increase the mileage from Diocompated to Activa.
- Mileage, while nothing to brag about, is decent - around 38 kmpl in city driving conditions with the rear seat 90% of the time.
- Since this is a Honda, the service center is too busy and currently cannot return the scooter on the same day, even if it is the first bike taken in for service that day.
- The pole sitting position is quite uncomfortable. Footrests that cannot be folded make it difficult for passengers to find them. Although the seat is uncomfortable, it reduces the width of the bike and thus makes it easier to squeeze in during traffic jams.
- If you decide to buy Dio, it has a waiting period of 2-3 months in Bangalore.