The continuation of the VMAX line and the successor to the Yamaxa V-MAX 1200 version was the Yamaxa VMAX 1700 model, first presented at the exhibition in Tokyo in 2005 . Three years later, mass production begins. In the concern's model range, the motorcycle is named Yamaxa VMAX. No indication of volume or any additional symbols.
Like the previous model, the bike is immediately classified as a dragster (or unofficial classification - power cruiser).
Peculiarities
The release of the model continues. The motorcycle is offered on all continents, for all countries.
VMAX became a legend almost from the moment it went on sale - there was simply no alternative model at that time.
The designer took into account all the shortcomings noted by users of the earlier version, and used individual solutions previously tested on the company’s sports. The result exceeded expectations. Over the 10 years of production, the motorcycle did not have to be modified or made any fundamental changes.
Specifications
Unlike the previous model, a regular engine was installed on the motorcycle. But to improve its performance, the motorcycle received three additional systems that only the R1 previously had:
- YCC-I - Yamaha Chip Controlled Intake - automatically changes the length of the intake valve. Electronics control. Savings in fuel consumption.
- YCC-T - Yamaha Chip Controlled Throttle - electronically controlled throttle.
- EXUP - smoothing of power delivery throughout the entire range using a special damper in the exhaust pipes. And also electronics control.
With the exception of these systems, the engine was standard - 4 cylinders, 4 strokes, V-shaped pistons with an angle of 650.
Engine – right side view.
Engine view from the left.
Collector pipe.
Engine – bottom view.
- Working volume - 1679 cm3.
- Power - 200 hp
- Number of valves - 16 (4 per cylinder).
- Cooling - liquid/air.
- Fuel supply - injector, EIS 48, 4x.
- Ignition is electronic (TCI).
- Start - electric starter.
- Tank volume - 15 l.
Transmission and clutch
The motorcycle has a 5-speed gearbox. According to user reviews, the gears turn on well, but so softly that sometimes when switching to the next one you can stay on the current one.
The cardan drive installed on the model can survive the entire motorcycle, provided that the oil in the gearbox is regularly changed.
Like the engine, the box was supplemented with the Yamaxa Slipper Clutch . In other models it is called simply - slipper clutch .
- It is multi-disc, oil bath . Transmission of forces - cable .
- The main drive is a cardan .
Brakes
The brake system has also been redesigned. The designers took into account that, according to users, the prototype had “wobbly” brakes.
Front brakes – 2 discs.
Rear brakes – 1 disc.
The drive remained standard, hydraulic, but the front axle was a 6-piston radial caliper , and the size of the rear disc was comparable to the size of the front ones on other bikes.
Front: brakes
- Number of disks - 2;
- Diameter - 320 mm;
- Support - 6-piston.
Rear brakes
- Number of disks - 1.
- Diameter - 298 mm.
- Support - 1-piston.
Already in the stock configuration, ABS is installed on both wheels.
Review of the Yamaha V-max 1200 motorcycle
I liked the motorcycle - it’s a very charismatic car, but I wouldn’t recommend it for a big city. It eats a lot, weighs a lot, drives great, but steers and brakes very mediocre. That is, it, of course, steers and brakes, but extremely sadly. At least without stretch marks and in stock. Changing to the 954th Fire, I was childishly happy about its brakes, and returning to the saddle of mine, I felt despondent)). Roughly speaking, the engine and chassis are very conditionally suitable for each other. Although for the 80s, where he comes from, of course, everything is normal.
Personally, I was tired of struggling with hardware on a daily basis, and decided to sell my faithful friend. The bike sold out at the end of the season for more than it was purchased for, and quite quickly.
I’m sure many will find a lot of positive aspects in the V-MAXe, but personally, I discovered enduro for myself, so now I look with disdain at heavy iron monsters on the additional stage.
I haven't owned the motor for long. Before that there were sports and sports tourists. The predecessor is the thrush. To be honest, I always wanted to touch and ride this motorcycle and, as they say, childhood dreams come true.
This spendthrift (probably like any other) has its own problems/shortcomings, so I’ll probably start with the cons.
1) Very inconvenient for long distances. In any case, I begin to fidget on it after 300 km. I want to get up and change the position of the 5th point. In general, this is caused by an extremely hard, uncomfortable seat. In principle, it can be treated in any studio.
2) Brakes. Some say they exist, some say they don’t. In general, my driving style has already become moderate; I don’t drive (except on open straights when there is no one around). Despite all this, there really aren’t enough of them. Even in the city. Even in traffic jams. If you are careless, you can simply overpress and block the wheel. Replacing calipers (from P1), brake hoses, discs, pads will not achieve the expected effect. This is such a motorcycle.
3) Tank. It's small. With my daily mileage of about 60 km, I fill up once every 2 days (although the light does not light up, which means there are more than 3 liters left in the tank). At the v-max club there seem to be boiled tanks, but judging by the price tag, the kulibins there were simply drunk. Do you want to fill up twice as often? No problem. Half the cost of the moto is in good condition and you are the owner of a boiled tank.
4) Overtaking. Headache. I treated myself. I ordered a new one, installed stronger bolts and placed them on a thread locker + grommets. 3000 km flight is normal.
5) Cardan end cap. It burst on me on the way to work. I arrived home in grief. As it turned out, this is also a sore. I treated it like this: I drilled out the tripe with a broken piece (on the gear in the differential). I cut a thread inside and screwed a hardened pin into the thread lock. The nut on this stud needs to be tightened to 110nm. It's very hard. I stopped the gear directly in the gearbox and twisted it gradually increasing the torque (from 40 nm - twisted to 114) it will be difficult. When disassembling, you will need a special wrench that can be used to unscrew the bushing from the housing and release the main pair with the bearing.
6) Weak fork. It's clearly not for this motorcycle. I feel that the seals will have to be changed quite often.
7) Weak battery (in capacity), weak generator. You will have to check the condition of the battery often, otherwise the 1.2-liter “fool” may not turn over one day. If you decide to hang up “blackjack” and you know what, the generator won’t allow it.
Coils \ spark plug caps. They are flooded. The caps tend to melt. It is treated by installing “COP” coils in the caps. After washing, the engine will start 100% (if there are no other faults). Suitable for Eroks, Jixers and Firebloods.
In terms of shortcomings, that's all.
Pros:
1) Acceleration dynamics. It's really like high-power sports. I don’t know how to modify it (I have 2WE), but the motor starts confidently.
2) Handling even at the lowest speeds is excellent. Once you get going, weight no longer matters.
3) Maintainability. The motorcycle can be repaired “on the knee”. Everything is clear, convenient and not difficult to access.
4) Availability of spare parts. A sea of tuning. There is room to put your hands to work.
5) Design that is relevant to this day. People are constantly staring. Everywhere it is classified into different classes. Dregster, cafe racer, muscle bike, cruiser, road bike...
6) Even in case of serious breakdowns, you will always get to the place of repair.
7) It’s comfortable for rope rope riders to sit.
Low price of a motorcycle.
In general, I have extremely positive impressions from the moto, although I expected otherwise. There are more rumors than truth about him. I got used to it within the first 10 minutes of the trip, but you need to understand what kind of car is underneath you.
Yes, it’s heavy (but I’m not small either, 190 height, 90 kg weight), but due to the fact that its tank is under the seat, the center of gravity is low, and it only starts to fall over when it’s almost stopped (and then you can hold the balance with your body). The stock frame lacks rigidity, but fortunately there is enough tuning and this problem can be solved. The vertical seating position and straight steering wheel, combined with a comfortable seat, provide maximum comfort. The only problem is the wind protection, after 120 it blows away, but again tuning saves the day.
The most interesting thing is the engine, it is powerful and flexible, allowing you to ride both in a chopper style and almost in a sport bike style. Whether you’re traveling with two or alone, he doesn’t care, it’s rushing like a tank, it doesn’t make any difference, I can’t say anything about the sound.
The only downside I can name is that the clutch is very tight (maybe it’s just me) and it’s problematic to turn into a corner at speed, you’ll screw it up. In general, I’m very pleased so far, I don’t see anything more worthy for the money.
Having sold my GSXR 1100, I was looking for a device with a direct fit. Thanks to the one who suggested buying VMAX. After the sale, I spent days and nights on the forums, reading about everything. Now it’s my turn, and I read owner reviews about Yamaha V Max. Motz is truly impressive - real, powerful, low-slung and of excellent Japanese build quality! At first I was worried whether I could cope with it, but trouble began. Since I got it in a worn condition, I started cleaning it. Having removed the tank, I removed all the rust, and there was plenty of it. The engine and carbs were surprisingly fine. The mileage was more than ten, the condition spoke about it. Of course, I immediately changed the oils and filters, since I planned to drive every day, and not once a month. I drive both around the city and at night on the highways.
The v max motorcycle is very comfortable, it rolls perfectly on any turns - I don’t know who imagines otherwise. I won’t write much about acceleration - the rocket is real. I didn’t have enough wind protection, so I installed touring glass. I drove to Samara for a long distance, covered more than 3,500 km there and back without breakdowns or incidents. I calculated the consumption - from five to 7 per hundred square meters, depending on the aggressiveness of the driving mode. So the tank lasts for 250 km on average. In the city, it eats more, it reaches 9, especially if you find yourself in a traffic jam acceleration-braking mode.
Go to Yamaha V-max 1200
Check out the test drives:
- Honda X4: Comparative test drive with Yamaha V-max 1200
- Yamaha V-max 1200: Review
Dimensions and weight
The curb weight of the motorcycle is 310 kg . Chrome version, for the USA - 311 kg .
Dry - 292 kg .
The dimensions were not much different from the prototype:
- the bike has grown in length - from 2,301 to 2,396 mm ;
- width - from 796 to 821 mm ;
- in height - from 1,161 to 1,191 mm ;
Wheelbase - 1371 mm . The saddle height has increased by 40 mm - 775 mm .
For whom is it intended?
The low seating position of the bike, as well as the low seat height, makes for a comfortable ride for a person of average and short stature.
The low-set seat provides a slightly relaxed seating position with a slight forward lean.
The classic seating position, which does not require much bending of the knees or bending over the steering wheel, can also suit tall people.
Difficult choice between T-maxes
I collected my thoughts for a long time, thought, thought again, looked for time, and finally sat down to write all this.
In short, this is a comparison of the old and new Tmax.
And now, not in brief:
On June 11, 2013, before my birthday, I bought Tmax 2, 2007.
Since then, he and I have been to the Black Sea 3 times, 1 time to the Crimea (also the Black Sea, by the way), to dozens of festivals throughout the Rostov region, won a gymkhana, fell 2 times, slipping on ice, in 14 and 15 years old, drank, rode into the sunset, and in general, spent many wonderful days together. I learned this scooter inside and out, without a doubt, for its time it was the Best Scooter in the World. He is simply superb technically and on the move.
I was sure that I would only change it to something radically new. Something that can go much faster, handles at least the same, and looks cool and modern. By all this I meant the Tmax 750, which Yamaha seemed to be developing in 2008, but which then did not go into production, or something similar.
But time passed, and nothing new appeared, and what did appear did not really meet my criteria. And since then only two scooters have appeared. These are the BMW C600 Sport and the Yamaha T-max 530. The first is powerful, fast, but not comfortable or reliable. The second one, comfortable, reliable, but the same as what I drive.
During the New Year holidays 2021 I had time to think, and I decided that I needed to update the moped. I just really want something new.
I dismissed the BMW right away. The choice remained between Three and Four. At first everything seemed obvious: 4ka, of course! And I started saving for it. It then cost 400-450 thousand rubles B.U. Well, at least from memory since the last time I looked at the ads.
So I lived with the wonderful thought that I was drinking one bottle of mineral water for the second day, and enduring hunger until the evening so that I could eat at home - FOR THE SAKE OF A DREAM. I saved. I didn’t eat fast food, didn’t drink sweet and expensive water, didn’t buy anything expensive. I only had enough left over for gasoline, mineral water, and something small to eat, like a pancake, at best. Everything else went into the piggy bank. But at home, of course, I ate well, what Ira prepared)
Meanwhile, the piggy bank was getting fatter. I was losing weight, and the season was in full swing outside. Suddenly for me, Igor (Kids) decided to buy himself a 3-body 2010, and we rushed to Moscow to get it. They bought it, brought it, and I had the opportunity to study it, because... before that, I saw a live three even before purchasing my Tmax. She turned out to be very good. Very true! The Troika is a combination of all the good things from all the bodies, and even from the fourth!
In my 2, I was infuriated by the square taillight, the small, useless glove compartment, but I really liked its “solidity,” the strength of all the parts, the engine (except for the sluggish start), and most importantly, the CHAIN IN AN OIL BATH! This is an eternal knot that does not cause any inconvenience! No noise, no dirt, no maintenance - nothing! This is the most amazing drive I've ever seen. It can only be compared with a cardan, but there is more power loss in the cardan.
Oh yes, we were talking about the three. Its design is sharp, but with smooth lines, the interior looks very harmonious, all the details fit together exactly, and everything works like a clock. Two huge glove compartments close with a smooth movement of the hand, tightly and hermetically. The unpainted plastic is very pleasant to the touch, better than on the 2 and better than on the 4. The tidy is very beautiful, symmetrical and fits perfectly into the interior!
Tidy 3ki:
Tidy 4ki:
At the same time, the triple has a spatial aluminum frame, instead of the tubular steel frame on previous generations, and a redesigned layout of internal organs, which makes its maintenance more convenient.
Frame 3ki and 4ki:
Frame 2ki and 1tsy:
In general, it is clear that wild engineers worked on this moped, who had the rarest task in our time - to IMPROVE THE DESIGN! Make a THING, not a marketing dummy (hello Honda).
I really liked the three. I liked it so much that the question arose about the advisability of 4K! The choice was not easy. The 4's pluses still had +6 hp, lensed headlights, a new year, and an awesome appearance.
Having placed all three mopeds side by side, the choice became even more difficult, because... Some of the 4k's jambs have come out: the interior plastic is much worse than that of the 3k and 2k. The painted plastic is thinner and rattles in some places. In fact, there is only one glove compartment, the right one, because... The left one only holds keys.
And then, with the closing of this “normal” glove compartment, there is some kind of crap. Its latch works with difficulty, the lid needs to be FUCKED, and then in half the cases, it then opens while driving (the BMW S 600 has the same problem). You have to lock it with a key, then it won’t open on its own, but even when the moped is running, you won’t open it either, because... its key is inserted into the ignition switch. In general, you can’t really use it. You can put what you use least often there. For example, a spider, or documents. It is not suitable for quick access. Let me remind you that the three are ideally suited for quick access, and there are no problems with them.
On the move, two and three are not very different. They drive exactly the same, but the troika steers a little easier. At the same time, the maximum speed of a deuce is higher. She travels 195-200 km/h. Three and four are really 165 maximum. according to their speedometer it is 170-175
But after driving the 4k everything fell into place.
Her motor works differently. The clutch has been clearly redesigned, and the range of maximum power and torque has been shifted down by 2 thousand revolutions. The two and three start driving at 2000 rpm, and wake up at 4-5 thousand, which occurs at 40-60 km/h. Then everything is fine.
The four takes you right from the start, from 2000 rpm, with smooth acceleration. which slows down only after 140 km/h.
If you race from a standstill, then 4ka will leave far behind 2 and 3, which will be driving nearby. But if all three of them drive side by side at 60 km/h, and at the same time give full throttle, then together they will reach 160, and then the two will slowly move forward.
In general, they worked on the engine, making it more torquey and more suitable for city driving. By the way, the clutch engages firmly and does not slip at all. Even if you deliberately barely start moving, it will engage in one moment, and you will simply drive off sharply. With this I see difficulties in the slow driving competition)
Also on the 4k there is a belt instead of a chain in an oil bath. It seems cool, fashionable, youthful, but nevertheless, this is another expensive consumable, a unit that requires tuning, tensioning and adjustment, and in fact, it’s not clear how it should be tensioned. From the interior they are all re-tightened, service officials also tighten them (according to the owners from the Tmax Club), to properly tension the belt you need a device that costs over 5000 rubles, and is sold only in Italy, and possibly also in Japan. Or dancing with a tambourine around a turner and a welder. In general, this belt is nothing but inconvenience. Its only possible advantage is a reduction in unsprung mass.
I spent a whole week thinking and digesting all this information and impressions. And I decided that if the toad allows it, then I’ll take 4k. ONLY because of the way it drives. NO! Not this way! It would be more correct to say that I won’t take the three just because it doesn’t drive better than the two! Because in everything else, three is better.
No sooner said than done. The piggy bank had not yet grown enough, and prices had risen, but I borrowed the missing amount and began to look. The cheapest Tmax 4 2012 cost 498 tr. But it turned out to be sold. Next, out of five options that suit me on Avto.ru, costing up to 550 tr. ALL OF THEM were sold!!! Only one was not sold in this price range - with collective farm green xenon and partially repainted gold.
I went looking on Avito and found a white moped! I really wanted white! And at Avto.ru everyone was gray. But they wanted 570 rubles for him. My toad looked at me from the bed, holding in her green paws the main attributes of Russian statehood - a gag and a strap-on.
After talking with the seller, we reduced the price a little, to 550. And we agreed that I would arrive in 2 days. Until then I didn't sleep. I was nervous, I behaved like a woman with her period, when the seller did not answer me on WhatsApp - it seemed to me that right now he was selling my moped to someone! In short, I was closed.
But the seller turned out to be a decent guy, he waited for me without any deposits, just on my word of honor. We came to him at Daihatsu, loaded the moped, paid, and went to sleep at the hotel, parking the car with the moped in the yard. And the next morning we went home. The road was long, as always from Moscow. Approaching Rostov, near Kamensk, we lost our vigilance and caught such a fucking wave of asphalt in the LEFT lane (so that the devils would break the anus of the fagot who laid this asphalt!) that we were thrown into the air, and the moped, stretched in the back by cables, fell! He fell and hit the headlight on a piece of metal, and the muffler shield on the side of the daihatsu! I almost had a heart attack. I ran out and began to examine the damage. But fortunately (it could hardly be called happiness then) there were very few of them. A couple of scratches and abrasions on the headlight, and scratches on the muffler shield.
We arrived home, and the next day I began road trials of the new moped. And he sent the passenger backrest from the moped back to the seller, for which he transferred me 10 thousand. I don’t need it, I’ll install the trunk, but for some reason he needs it. So that's great.
In general, the new moped is similar to the old moped, but a little better in everything except the maximum speed and the belt. With the belt, it’s simply not clear whether it’s properly tensioned or not. The chain always worked perfectly - the way the factory set it up. And you tension the belt yourself, and it seems that if it is not tensioned correctly, you will only find out about it when something breaks. Either the belt itself will break, or the drive pulley will become loose.
I’M NOW READING AND FUCKING….. I knew it! Knew!!!
It's very nice that this moped has a flow meter. It shows average and instantaneous fuel consumption. This allows you to choose the optimal driving mode, as well as determine the quality of the gasoline you refueled with. My consumption in the city is 5.3 liters. On the highway with a speed of 120 and smooth acceleration, it is 4. You can also achieve driving with a consumption of 3.6, but this is a mockery of yourself.
There is ABS here. Many copies have been broken on this topic, but I can summarize. ABS is for lazy or inexperienced drivers. It improves braking stability by counteracting dangerous situations, slippery areas on the road, or pressing the brakes too hard. But at the same time, it reduces the effectiveness of emergency braking. I'll explain why. If, without ABS, my wheel locks when braking, then I slightly release the brake until the wheel engages again, and then press it again. This takes about 0.3s. The ABS does the same thing, only it senses the lock a little earlier than I do, reduces the braking force more than I do, and increases the braking again after about 0.8s. That is, after the wheel is locked, the ABS maintains a longer pause than I do, and during this pause it brakes less. In order for the wheel to grip again, I need to weaken the force on the handle by 20-30%, and for him by no less than 50. But at the same time, it completely eliminates the possibility of falling due to the fact that the wheel is blocked during braking, or you drove into a puddle of oil when braking. And the human factor is the human factor. There is no ABS on racing vehicles. In general, ABS makes braking worse.
Now about the light. On 4k there are lenses, each of which contains one H11 lamp. The left lens shines near, the right lens shines far. Moped for Europe. In Japanese it's the other way around.
The world is one-eyed. Those. When the low beam is on, one left lens lights up. When the high beam is on, the left one continues to shine on the low beam, but the right one shines on the high beam.
The light is average. After xenon with lenses on 2k - nothing at all. I would like to improve it, but it makes no sense to put xenon in these lenses - it will remain one-eyed and will shine like 2ka when 1 xenon lamp has burned out. In winter, I will most likely disassemble the headlight and change the lenses to lenses with curtains. so that both eyes shine on those who are near, and both on those who are far. Everything else doesn’t shine.
Temporarily, until winter, I bought Osram Night Breaker unlimited +110% lamps. This improved the light noticeably, but still not what I was used to.
I wanted to buy Phillips X-treme Vision +130%, but they don’t come in the H11 base. Phillips produces a whiter light.
Added after a year: Osram lamps burned out after two months.
This is Phillips Extreme Vision 130% and a standard, factory Phillips lamp in Igor’s moped.
Regarding the pit, it is the same as on 2nd. It is a little deeper, but the seat cover is flat at the bottom, in contrast to the convex cover in 2k. The volume is the same.
The two-piece seating position is the most comfortable. On 3 and 4 cars, the distance from the driver’s back to the footrests is the same as on 2 cars, but the steering wheel is located further, and you have to reach for it, which makes the seat more tense and your back gets more tired.
To summarize, I can say that the 4th body of Tmax is a FETISH, and it is not worth the money, because there is a third body, 200 thousand cheaper. And the third body is better.
Added a year later: The 4 has a better motor, but a worse drive. So much worse that it negates all the advantages of the engine.
But I had no choice, because having traveled a lot in the second body, I simply needed at least some increase in power. But it is only available on 4K. For those who have never driven a Tmax, the dynamics of any of them will be enough.
Advantages
Yamaha V MAX 1700 is a motorcycle that can be called exclusive and unique without any discounts.
- Appearance.
- Powerful motor.
- Great dynamics.
- Easy maintenance.
- Large selection of components and parts for tuning.
- Excellent, responsive brakes, but ABS could be made less sensitive.
Big, nimble, one plus without options - this is what the owners say.
